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  • #61
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    If Bradley keeps Geno, there is a chance Bradley will be a little better next year, and maybe move up to 9th or 8th place, even though I don't see any way they pass anyone up. So then would we keep Geno another year?
    IMO, this is the year to make the move.
    I can see it now...
    2015- let's keep Geno cuz we don't have an AD
    2016- let's keep Geno cuz we are improved and moved up from 10th to 8th
    2017- let's keep Geno cuz in 2016 he graduated and lost 8 players and had a lot of player-games lost- so we got 'scuses
    2018- the PJS writes that fans are impatient and need to give Geno several more years to rebuild - so he gets a 4-year extension
    2019- can't fire him now, don't have the money to buy out a 4-year contract!
    2020- Bradley attendance has declined so much, they make plans to move their home games to St. Mark's Grade School gym - seating capacity 110 with some folding chairs under the baskets.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      then why did our President do it with baseball then essentially do it again with basketball -
      the AD openly admitting he favored keeping JL and wasn't all that involved in the selection of Geno,
      and all the while the newspaper & a few fans going giddy claiming she made great choices?

      where were those claiming "it is suicide" when we've been doing it since KK was fired?
      Well these are two totally different scenarios
      I don't believe you should hire a coach without an AD. I don't remember the timelines really If you say ken wasn't there when Elvis was hired then that's over and done with. We also had an AD wgen les was fired and Geno hired. If you want to say the AD wasn't involved, that's fine. I wasn't there so I don't know. If I remember right ken didn't want to fire Mo either but it happened.
      Hiring a coach without an AD and Prez just doesn't make any sense

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      • #63
        The university needs to hire an athletic director, when the BOT feels they have the best candidate they can get. No sooner, no later.

        Everything else stems off the quality of the athletic director. If we rush and just get a person to fill the position...we're doomed. This has to be the right person.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          If Bradley keeps Geno, there is a chance Bradley will be a little better next year, and maybe move up to 9th or 8th place, even though I don't see any way they pass anyone up. So then would we keep Geno another year?
          IMO, this is the year to make the move.
          If Geno is kept one more year, I don't think there is anyway they bring him back after next season. I'm not convinced they move up to 8th or 9th. If they do, what's the difference? They're still in the play in round and will lose around 20 games again.

          Geno needs to go but we may be able to get a better coach in a year. Aren't we looking at this for the long haul?

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          • #65
            Ken was fired in May 2008
            Elvis was hired June 24, 2008

            I was just responding to your statement
            Hiring a coach without an AD is suicide…..

            but we all know Elvis was hired using zero input from an AD

            Thus I don't disagree with your statement- I just find it odd that we've been hiring coaches without the input of an AD before- and now suddenly it's "suicide" to do it?
            It probably WAS suicide each of the past dozen or so times we've done it but nobody seemed to care - which is how we got so incredibly screwed up with so few people trying to ring the alarm at such destructive moves and bonehead hires.

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            • #66
              Ken was fired in May 2008
              Elvis was hired June 24, 2008

              I was just responding to your statement
              Hiring a coach without an AD is suicide…..

              but we all know Elvis was hired using zero input from an AD

              Thus I don't disagree with your statement- I just find it odd that we've been hiring coaches without the input of an AD before- and now suddenly it's "suicide" to do it?
              It probably WAS suicide each of the past dozen or so times we've done it but nobody seemed to care - which is how we got so incredibly screwed up with so few people trying to ring the alarm at such destructive moves and bonehead hires.
              It was wrong to hire without input from an AD then and it is now. Saying nobody cared is one heck of a declaration. Most people realized it was wrong, but other than basketball nobody really cared. But what were the fans suppose to do about it? The passion for Bradley basketball is not that great. If it was, how many people were at the last Board of Trustees meeting and requested to speak about the basketball situation? It was open to the public.

              This is an opportunity for Bradley to right the ship with the correct athletic director, and move forward. The finger pointing and insistence of who is right and who is wrong, and who said this first and who said that first is so petty.

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              • #67
                the fans were repeatedly told by admin & by media that those decisions were all great decisions and would pay off immediately and we'd be competing for championships in no time

                of course a lot of us knew it was total BS and that those "Committee-of-one" decisions were reckless & ill-advised, but like I said - not enough people cared until we saw the 24 & 25 loss seasons and the empty arenas.
                Why it took so long to see the disaster coming and why a certain clueless but vocal group of fans backed it all -
                even posting long message board threads brown-nosing those moves and calling those people the greatest admin people Bradley have ever had - is beyond stupidity.

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                • #68
                  Maybe everybody isn't an expert.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    the fans were repeatedly told by admin & by media that those decisions were all great decisions and would pay off immediately and we'd be competing for championships in no time

                    of course a lot of us knew it was total BS and that those "Committee-of-one" decisions were reckless & ill-advised, but like I said - not enough people cared until we saw the 24 & 25 loss seasons and the empty arenas.
                    Why it took so long to see the disaster coming and why a certain clueless but vocal group of fans backed it all -
                    even posting long message board threads brown-nosing those moves and calling those people the greatest admin people Bradley have ever had - is beyond stupidity.
                    If I was as ate up with hatred as you are, I'd give up Bradley basketball.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      Ken was fired in May 2008
                      Elvis was hired June 24, 2008

                      I was just responding to your statement



                      but we all know Elvis was hired using zero input from an AD

                      Thus I don't disagree with your statement- I just find it odd that we've been hiring coaches without the input of an AD before- and now suddenly it's "suicide" to do it?
                      It probably WAS suicide each of the past dozen or so times we've done it but nobody seemed to care - which is how we got so incredibly screwed up with so few people trying to ring the alarm at such destructive moves and bonehead hires.
                      I didn't realize BU hired a dozen or so coaches without any input from the AD??¦.

                      In any event it doesn't make sense to hire the men's basketball coach with out an AD??¦??¦

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                      • #71
                        I think he is suggesting the President hired them, and not the AD.

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                        • #72
                          Vent, I can see both sides of the argument. However, some fans may not have ten years to wait and would like to see Bradley succeed.

                          I have have a problem with seeing two years of recruiting with little recruiting success. Those two years on top of want we have now could bury us forever.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by LongTimeFan View Post
                            Vent, I can see both sides of the argument. However, some fans may not have ten years to wait and would like to see Bradley succeed.

                            I have have a problem with seeing two years of recruiting with little recruiting success. Those two years on top of want we have now could bury us forever.
                            I agree with you. I'm just thinking it may be at least two more weeks until the athletic director is hired. If he decides to fire Geno, it will probably be the end of April or May, until the new coach is hired.

                            My concern with hiring a coach that late is we may be getting the last of the leftovers. If that were the case, maybe we'd be better off to keep Geno one more year and hire the next coach when the selection pool is a little better.

                            On the other hand, maybe the BOT have an athletic director already selected, and that athletic director has talked with the next coach, and it will fall together very quickly after the AD is hired.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Vent View Post
                              If I was as ate up with hatred as you are, I'd give up Bradley basketball.
                              I think you miss on your assessment - I am obsessed with one thing - with wanting to see Bradley playing well and winning.
                              I will not be shy in pointing out the reasons we are so incredibly bad and why we have lost so many fans - only now does someone appear to be listening and paying attention so something's getting done.

                              Are you aware that just 9 months ago the board was so enamored with the situation and with the Prez that they gave her an astounding long multi-year extension?
                              So unless you really wanted to see 25 losses a year for the next five seasons - then maybe you have fans like me who spoke up, made some noise, and got the Board off their a&&es for the changes that are being made now.

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                              • #75
                                Looks to me like we have the same people (BOT) driving this clown car as before. I wonder if they learned from their prior mistakes. We will find out when they hire the athletic director.

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