Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Unconfigured Ad Widget 7

Collapse

Athletic Director candidates

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Athletic Director candidates

    Interesting to see the column by Kirk Wessler in the March 8 PJ Star.

    The first half of his column simply reiterates everything that is already known about the openings for President, AD, and potentially head coach.

    Then, he confirms the Jerrance Howard rumors that some clueless people disputed and called "BS"-
    ...there was a plan by a group of BU supporters that had the attention of certain board members. Part of that plan was to fast-track Jerrance Howard...

    Now Kirk seems to have come full circle and reports this Jerrance Howard information as if it is breaking news, but does not acknowledge any source.

    That is interesting, since we reported the Jerrance Howard information way back on February 9, and it was called "BS" by some, and disputed as a false rumor. Part of that same report that appeared here on Bradleyfans reported that Michael Cross was being dismissed by the Board. We were asked by Bradley to remove that thread (which out of courtesy to BU, we did), because, as the Bradley demand stated, "this thread is not true and is inappropriate."
    Then exactly 1 week later, it became known that it was all true. Michael Cross was dismissed, just as we stated.

    Then Kirk reports about the AD search. He states-
    The primary target appears to be Chris Reynolds, the former Peoria High basketball star who captained Bob Knight’s last Final Four team at Indiana. He has a law degree and a career in college athletics administration that includes stints at the NCAA, Michigan State, Notre Dame and Northwestern, where he is deputy athletics director.

    Again, that may sound familiar, since we reported all that back on February 9, and the PJ Star reported the rumor was false and that the Board had not considered anyone yet for the job.

    Finally, Kirk throws out 2 more names-
    Another name with traction is Dan Butterly, a Washington native who is senior associate commissioner of the Mountain West Conference.

    Here is a bio on Dan Butterly-
    The Sports Video Group supports the professional community that relies on video, audio, and broadband technologies to produce and distribute sports content.


    I am not sure what he means by "Another name with traction". Its a rather odd way to state things, as if he is retaining plausible deniability. Is he reporting that the Board has actually considered him? Or has the Board contacted him or interviewed him? For the record, our sources have been pretty good so far, and I am not hearing this name.

    The other name Kirk threw out-
    Yet another person of interest could be Allen Ward. He’s a Wichita State alum now heading the athletic department at Murray State, which is a perennial mid-major basketball power.

    Here is Allen Ward's bio-
    Page Not Found (404): It looks like you're lost... The page you are looking for no longer exists.


    Ward has a pretty good, and a pretty well paying job at Murray State as their AD. Their basketball team this year is 27-5 and undefeated in the Ohio Valley Conference. He has no connections to Peoria or Illinois that I can see. From the way it was stated, "Yet another person of interest could be...", again it seems that Kirk is not actually reporting he is a legitimate candidate. Maybe he is just throwing out the name, but I am not sure why Allen Ward would be interested in leaving a good AD position at Murray State to take over the absolute mess that has been left behind at Bradley.

  • #2
    Well I doubt he just threw names out there without any reason??¦.

    Is there competition between this board and the PJS for news??¦??¦really until someone is hired it's all just conversation

    Comment


    • #3
      If he doesn't give any sources for the names he throws out, then why do you and the PJ Star criticize this board for doing the same thing? I see a significant hypocrisy.

      Plus, our basketball coach has not been fired, yet Kirk repeatedly says he will be. How is that different that what we were attacked for with the AD? Another massive hypocrisy.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        If he doesn't give any sources for the names he throws out, then why do you and the PJ Star criticize this board for doing the same thing? I see a significant hypocrisy.

        Plus, our basketball coach has not been fired, yet Kirk repeatedly says he will be. How is that different that what we were attacked for with the AD? Another massive hypocrisy.
        It's obvious you and some others don't read any of KW's columns with objectiveness??¦..and that's what message boards are for??¦..

        as well as posts about responses to KW's columns??¦..

        and I agree hypocrisy is present everywhere

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by lefty View Post
          Is there competition between this board and the PJS for news……

          It's obvious you and some others don't read any of KW's columns with objectiveness…..

          ...hypocrisy is present everywhere

          The biggest hypocrisy, and it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of nearly everyone I talk to, is how viciously Kirk attacked Jim Les and demanded his firing, and how he refuses to say anything negative about Geno despite the undeniable fact we are many times worse off.

          But everyone is entitled to their opinions, including you. But it would be nice if you contributed opinions or facts to these discussions, but instead, your posts always seem to be primarily negative comments about other posters.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            That is interesting, since we reported the Jerrance Howard information way back on February 9

            ....Again, that may sound familiar, since we reported all that back on February 9....
            well, da coach, I will take you to task on this...
            You first told me personally of those two names, Howard & Reynolds, back in mid-January - long before a hint of news that we were even in need of a coach or an AD

            Just to prove that - here's your post from January where you finally went a little bit public with what you knew...




            Originally posted by lefty View Post
            Well I doubt he just threw names out there without any reason….

            Is there competition between this board and the PJS for news……really until someone is hired it's all just conversation....
            lefty- nice to see you consider BradleyFans & the Sports Editor of the PJ Star as equal competitors...but in a way you have just confirmed what we have said all along...
            That instead of the newspaper guys always criticizing the message boards - they need to admit that they are simply in the EXACT same business as the people who post in their spare time on message boards, but they get paid handsomely for it.
            the newspaper guys claim a "higher standard" and claim they do a better job of researching their reports -
            but as we have seen so many times, they often just put stuff in their columns like this that's every bit as speculative and what's on message boards.

            There have been many other examples - reports of recruits (Cass, Wilkins) committing that in fact never committed, repeated previously debunked & totally false claims like Bruce Weber using the N-word in conversations with Chicago high school coaches and calling Eric Gordon a "steaming pile of.."
            then there were the dozens of false reports & inaccuracies they published about the Daniel Ruffin arrest and about the previous coaching search...and more but you get the picture.

            I think you are right in saying that even tho we never feel threatened by "competition" from the newspaper..
            it is obvious that the newspaper feels threatened and angry about competition from amateurs on the message boards & blogs.
            They really ought to welcome & embrace the info they get from us....maybe even pay us or at least give us credit when they take something right off the message boards and run with it.

            Comment


            • #7
              Butterly is a good guy. I think he would be a really good AD.

              Comment


              • #8
                Mizzou just hired the Houston AD, the guy who just hired Kelvin Sampson

                they paid a $200,000 search committee fee plus they are paying at least $537K+ salary


                Butterly is kind of a full fledged ISU guy --
                it doesn't rule him out in my eyes, but i wonder if he'd ever want to go to work for Bradley or would he stick to his principles

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  Butterly is kind of a full fledged ISU guy --
                  I don't know what this means.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    Mizzou just hired the Houston AD, the guy who just hired Kelvin Sampson

                    they paid a $200,000 search committee fee plus they are paying at least $537K+ salary


                    Butterly is kind of a full fledged ISU guy --
                    it doesn't rule him out in my eyes, but i wonder if he'd ever want to go to work for Bradley or would he stick to his principles
                    Didn't bother Fergie.
                    What part of illegal don't you understand?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      The biggest hypocrisy, and it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of nearly everyone I talk to, is how viciously Kirk attacked Jim Les and demanded his firing, and how he refuses to say anything negative about Geno despite the undeniable fact we are many times worse off.

                      But everyone is entitled to their opinions, including you. But it would be nice if you contributed opinions or facts to these discussions, but instead, your posts always seem to be primarily negative comments about other posters.
                      So if I disagree with you, it's negative???¦.I'm just responding to your post??¦


                      there is very little basketball talk here lately and I understand that too??¦??¦

                      He has a good relationship with Geno and didn't have one with Les??¦..makes sense he may take it easier on him??¦??¦some articles written about Les weren't all that negative in some peoples view but you thought they were exrememly negative??¦again different people have different opinions??¦..that's not a bad thing

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lefty View Post
                        He has a good relationship with Geno and didn't have one with Les??¦..makes sense he may take it easier on him??¦??¦...
                        as I expected - what he writes and how fair he is to someone is fully dependent on his personal bias towards you..
                        ought he not write objectively and leave his personal bias out of it?
                        Isn't that exactly what they slam the message boards for that people are prone to speaking their biases and are "easier on" those they have a "good relationship" with?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          If his own personal feeling taint his opinions, then he should give that disclaimer, or just retire from his job. But he never has. It seems the few defenders he has make all the excuses for him that he needs.

                          And whenever you post, it seems to always include a shot at this site ("there is very little basketball talk here lately and I understand that too") or whoever's post you don't agree with.--
                          Originally posted by lefty
                          Is there competition between this board and the PJS for news??¦??¦

                          It's obvious you and some others don't read any of KW's columns with objectiveness??¦..

                          ...hypocrisy is present everywhere
                          We'd welcome some actual input or posts with content sometimes, instead of every post taking shots at this site or other posters.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lefty View Post
                            So if I disagree with you, it's negative???¦.I'm just responding to your post??¦


                            there is very little basketball talk here lately and I understand that too??¦??¦

                            He has a good relationship with Geno and didn't have one with Les??¦..makes sense he may take it easier on him??¦??¦some articles written about Les weren't all that negative in some peoples view but you thought they were exrememly negative??¦again different people have different opinions??¦..that's not a bad thing
                            The negative relationship with Les is dead on, but the problem is KW denied it. In private conversations when challenged to name an article where he praised Jim Les, he always gave the same answer, one from the S16 run in 2006 where he wrote that JL had "arrived." 4-5 years later he was still citing the same example.

                            That being said, I don't think the difference in coverage is quite as drastic as it is sometimes laid out here. There were JL-era articles which were fine.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              "we are all biased, so it is dangerous to believe the ones who won't admit it and claim to be unbiased"


                              ...so says the "Chairman of the Society of Professional Journalists’ Ethics Committee" and this 45-year journalism veteran..
                              A lot has been made of the word “objectivity” as it relates to news coverage and reporting. Some people believe it is an attainable value in American journalism, a principle worthy of our efforts. …

                              Comment

                              Unconfigured Ad Widget 6

                              Collapse
                              Working...
                              X