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  • #31
    Originally posted by Chico View Post
    As usual the Braves had a tough time scoring. But last night I watched Arizona State score 9 points in the first half against Utah. Don't ever remember seeing a team score in single digits the first half.
    Bradley scored only 8 first half points against Utah in Salt Lake on December 5, 1991 in Molinari's first season.
    It's mentioned here in the second line-


    And there was an Atlantic 10 game in 2008 in which Rick Majerus' St. Louis team scored just 7 first half points, and only 20 points total for the entire game at George Washington. They lost 49-20-
    Expert recap and game analysis of the George Washington Revolutionaries vs. Saint Louis Billikens NCAAM game from January 10, 2008 on ESPN.


    Here are a few more games that involved a single-digit half-


    Northern Illinois holds the post-shot clock record with just 4 points in a half-
    Northern Illinois broke its own NCAA Division I record for futility Saturday by scoring just four points in the first half at Eastern Michigan.

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    • #32
      Lefty have you watched Geno the last 4 years? I'm not sure he could get a high school coaching job. Why let these people resign? Call it how it is. Don't keep lying to the fans.

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      • #33
        when is Genos pink slip gonna be ready ?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
          Lefty have you watched Geno the last 4 years? I'm not sure he could get a high school coaching job. Why let these people resign? Call it how it is. Don't keep lying to the fans.
          He was 119-69 as a head coach before BU with only one losing season. Maybe those 6 seasons were accidents but to say he should never be hired is't right.
          I'm guessing he will learn and maybe he won't get a HC job, but there are lots of opportunities and I think in time he'll be a HC again??¦??¦he did a terrible job here but he's a good guy and I hope he does well.

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          • #35
            2/19/2000 Illinois held Northwestern scoreless for the first 15 minutes, and the Wildcats only had 6 points at half. This was in Evanston.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lefty View Post
              He was 119-69 as a head coach before BU ...
              but in each of his other tenures - whatever you wanna say about his coaching - he was handed a successful team full of stars by his predecessors...
              He's never had to go out and GET PLAYERS to build for beyond 3 years - this is where he's failed.
              He went 24-10 & 25-12 (really no post-season success) in the two years before here, and when JL had those kinds of records - people scoffed and said he only won 20 cuz of the bloated schedule with 37 games!

              BUT - even if we concede he came with good credentials - that doesn't fly any more when he's done worse - and not just worse but FAR, FAR worse than any coach Bradley has ever had, so how much longer do we ride this dead horse?
              I know the coaching fraternity is "tight" and so I guess I can look past those comments by Greg Lansing trying to urge Bradley to keep Geno - but how long would the Indiana State people wait if his teams were that bad?
              Seriously Greg - you're just playing politics, right??

              We will end with 24 losses this year vs. a soft schedule & a relatively weak MVC -
              Indiana State has NEVER lost more than 24 games and when they went lost 24 in 1989 they canned their coach!
              Waltman got canned for losing, Dillard got canned at Indiana State for losing, Tates Locke got canned for losing, Ron Greene likewise, Dave Schellhase, and even Bill Hodges, 3 years after taking Indiana State (with inherited players like Larry Bird) to the Championship game - 3 years later he was fired for winning only 9 games (one more than we have)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by lefty View Post
                He was 119-69 as a head coach before BU with only one losing season. Maybe those 6 seasons were accidents but to say he should never be hired is't right.
                I don't disagree. Sometime things don't work out.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  I did notice, and it was the first time I have ever seen him so active and involved with direct coaching during games. And I also noticed how uninvolved the other 2 assistants were, who are usually much more involved with in-game coaching and talking to players during time-outs.

                  I didn't think about the other coaches, but now that you mention it, you're right. I wonder if the board has already had discussion with the coaching staff and Pittis is the last man standing?

                  On a side note, listening to the post game on the radio it finally struck me - Geno sounds more like a fan describing the game than a coach breaking it down. He talks a lot about what shots were missed and made, but doesn't really go into great detail about schemes, and what could have been done differently to have made a difference (other than 'shoot and rebound better').
                  Larry Bird
                  I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by lefty View Post
                    He was 119-69 as a head coach before BU with only one losing season. Maybe those 6 seasons were accidents but to say he should never be hired is't right.
                    I'm guessing he will learn and maybe he won't get a HC job, but there are lots of opportunities and I think in time he'll be a HC again……he did a terrible job here but he's a good guy and I hope he does well.
                    The MAC is not exactly a college powerhouse conference. BU beat one team with a decent record this year. Do you know who that was? Central Michigan with 21 wins. Do you know what conference Central Michigan is in? That's right - the MAC. And BU beat them handily.

                    You can probably get by with good recruiting and no coaching in the MAC, but if you can't coach in the MVC, you'll get eaten alive. I think that's what we've seen happen here. Geno is just completely out of his league (literally).
                    Larry Bird
                    I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tommy View Post
                      The MAC is not exactly a college powerhouse conference. BU beat one team with a decent record this year. Do you know who that was? Central Michigan with 21 wins. Do you know what conference Central Michigan is in? That's right - the MAC. And BU beat them handily.

                      You can probably get by with good recruiting and no coaching in the MAC, but if you can't coach in the MVC, you'll get eaten alive. I think that's what we've seen happen here. Geno is just completely out of his league (literally).

                      The MVC is not exactly a powerhouse conference and in fact, if you knew your facts, you would know that as of today, the MAC (10th) has a higher RPI than the MVC (11th).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by lefty View Post
                        He was 119-69 as a head coach before BU with only one losing season. Maybe those 6 seasons were accidents but to say he should never be hired is't right.
                        I'm guessing he will learn and maybe he won't get a HC job, but there are lots of opportunities and I think in time he'll be a HC again??¦??¦he did a terrible job here but he's a good guy and I hope he does well.
                        You are right Lefty. Sometimes things just don't work out. He did not come here with the intent of having a losing program.

                        He seems to be a good guy, with a sense of humor and a good family man. In addition, he loves coaching basketball, and has chosen it as a way of providing for his family.

                        If he does not return for next season, and I do believe a change is needed, I hope he finds an opportunity to coach again, should he choose to.

                        To say he should never be hired again as a coach, is nothing but speaking with emotions and not sound reasoning. Who on earth would not want somebody to be able to have a job again?

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                        • #42
                          The MVC is not exactly a powerhouse conference and in fact, if you knew your facts, you would know that as of today, the MAC (10th) has a higher RPI than the MVC (11th).

                          That may be true this season, but it is nowhere near true when Geno was coaching in the MAC.

                          Here are the Conference RPI's for the MVC and the MAC over the past 7 years-
                          ........MVC...MAC
                          2015...11....10
                          2014...11....12
                          2013....9.....18
                          2012....8.....17
                          2011...12....20\
                          2010....9.....16> These were the 3 seasons Geno coached in the MAC
                          2009....9.....21/

                          For the 3 seasons Geno coached at Kent State (2009, 2010, 2011) the MAC was a far weaker conference than the MVC.
                          Earlier than 2009 the difference was even larger.

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                          • #43
                            To me it looks like 2 conferences going in different direction. The RPI of the MAC is getting better and the RPI of the Valley is getting worse.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Vent View Post
                              The MVC is not exactly a powerhouse conference and in fact, if you knew your facts, you would know that as of today, the MAC (10th) has a higher RPI than the MVC (11th).
                              Looking up RPI rankings really has nothing to do with the history of success that I'm talking about. If you're arguing that the MAC has historically been a better Men's basketball conference than the MVC, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

                              Here's a thought - the MAC is rated 1 spot higher than the MVC. What happens if you take the worst coach out of the MVC and put him in the MAC? Who would that coach be? Oh, that's right - Geno. Coincidence? You've just made my point for me.

                              Either way you look at it, nothing, and I mean nothing, has improved under Geno in his time here. You can choose to defend him all you want, and heck, he may be a great guy, I don't know. The fact is, he's in a job that performance is based on the win column, and he has not provided that.
                              Larry Bird
                              I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Vent View Post
                                To me it looks like 2 conferences going in different direction. The RPI of the MAC is getting better and the RPI of the Valley is getting worse.
                                Absolutely correct. They coincide with Geno changing conferences, oddly enough.
                                Larry Bird
                                I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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