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  • #31
    Originally posted by wizard View Post
    T...I think you forgot Brett Burchette in your list of good guys who should stay.
    Wiz
    Has anyone else talked with Brett Burchette lately.. I know you have wizard...
    but here's what I guess bothers me a little...

    where we see how far Bradley has gone in the wrong direction - hiring the wrong people, ticking off fans, raising ticket prices, moving games to the campus gym, driving off so many fans, and continuing to tout how great they have done and how the fans really don't don't see what a tremendous job everyone's done & Bradley's doing better than any time the past 30 years ....etc...

    what bothers me is that this is apparently where Burchette stands....unwilling to admit we need changes, unwilling to concede fans have plenty of right to feel ignored & angry.... unwilling to actually admit there's any problem at all in the way they're running things - despite taking us in just five short years from RECORD REVENUES in Athletics to RECORD SPENDING & DEBT of over $7.1 million per year down the drain - and the all time worst stretch of BAD Bradley basketball and last place finishes Bradley has ever seen!
    that he's part of the very group that has destroyed Bradley athletics & he does NOT see the problem the way everyone else does -
    that of the things I have heard him say, and tweet - and things I have heard others tell me- that he stands behind all those horrid decisions and moves that have torpedoes Bradley's success.

    I know it is his job somewhat to be a cheerleader - but what I would prefer to hear - and I have said this all along -
    I would prefer to hear ..
    "Gee, I know we have some serious problems, and we're getting our noses to the grindstones, and we WANT to hear what the fans think and we will respond & we will find the solutions, and we will DO BETTER."

    Instead, what we do hear..
    "we're doing better than any time in the past 30 years, let's give everyone in the department a big raise & a nice long extension. The fans are uneducated, impatient, and hard to please - we DON'T want to hear what they say - we wish they'd shut up and just be satisfied with what we give them - take their comments off the message boards - in fact shut the message boards down..stop writing letters..
    AND - stop trying to talk with us at the Bradley games - we're busy & we don't want to hear what the fans say - in fact we're going to walk right by you and not even make eye contact. We run this program and who do you think you are to interfere?
    .....fans don't know how good they have it, we never made a dammm cent on those people buying the cheap seats in the upper bowl, and wow - Cross Country did well in regionals so the Basketball fans should shut up and be happy, etc...
    We don't care if your tickets are expensive and you paid your maintenence faithfully for 30 years, we're taking your tickets and selling them off to the highest bidder who isn't really a fan, he's just an advertiser who for a little while is willing to spend more than you.

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    • #32
      I think it is reasonable to look at who are the best coaches in the conferences that are a notch below us....
      this is where we, along with U of I got their current guys the last time we hired...

      MAC - right now the best coaches in the Mac are Toledo's Todd Kowalczyk & Buffalo's Bobby Hurley. Not sure if either would take the BU job - Hurley's an east coast guy and Kowalczyk would surely make one call to Geno and would probably say no thanks.

      Horizon- three best coaches in the Horizon are Valparaiso's Bryce Drew and Green Bay's Brian Wardle plus Cleveland State's Gary Waters (wins even in Cleveland!)
      I could be happy with any of these three but wonder if any of them would look at Bradley as a step UP? Might have to make a big offer to get any of them - and all three would certainly say NO to the terms that have been the standard at BU recently with upper level meddling.
      But I have thought all along that each of these guys is a good option.

      Summit
      Summit is interesting - South Dakota State is on top once again - they are every single year - so why does their head coach Scott Nagy not get the interest that any other coach with this consistent winning gets?
      Don't know - but BU will almost certainly pursue...He's not flamboyant, not obnoxiously self-promoting but I am ok with that....and we're already paying more than triple what he makes now..but the guy puts up 20 wins a year and does it with players the MVC doesn't give a call to.
      He actually is a VERY good coach
      One problem though - just look at his roster and look at his stats - he wins by recruiting shooters.
      Almost everyone on his teams shoots 40% and better from outside...
      Nagy's teams rely on shooters - kids who can sink the open shot...
      ....a couple years ago he had Nate Wolters - a really great college player who was in the exact mold of Alec Peters
      ..went on to score 2352 career points!
      Many people thought after Wolters left, then Nagy would have a dropoff....NOPE - just 25-9 the next year and another 20-win season currently!
      BUT - we don't have ANYONE like the players he uses - so he probably wouldn't be happy with the roster at BU
      ...- so it would take years for him to get the players he can win with but surely he'd land the Alec Peters/Gavin Block/Garrett Covington types...and Bradley fans might appreciate that the guy can coach and win.
      The other top team right now in the Summit is North Dakota State but their coach hasn't even been there a year - benefiting largely from the hoarde of good players left behind by Saul Phillips who was hired away to Ohio (who btw- are in last place in the MAC).
      The jury is out on North Dakota State's Dave Richman.
      Last edited by tornado; 03-02-2015, 08:12 AM.

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      • #33
        Scott Nagy is an interesting choice that I have heard may be a candidate because of his Illinois connections. A couple years ago an article listed his salary at $152,000. That probably goes a long way in Brookings, South Dakota, but by comparison to the $800,000 Bradley is paying, it is truly a bargain.
        BY JEREMY HOECKjeremy.hoeck@yankton.netThe beginning of July marked the new fiscal year for the South Dakota state budget, and thanks to the state’s open government website, you can look at s…

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        • #34
          We have to do better than Scott Nagy!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
            We have to do better than Scott Nagy!
            who would you suggest?

            Nagy seems to have a good resume. Not saying I disagree would just like to hear your candidates

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            • #36
              They are going to have to get a name and pay them to get fans back. They can't take another chance they have to get this right.

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              • #37
                If the BU coaching position opens up as it appears it may, fans should not set their sights too high in their expectations of the next coach. The Bradley job is not the job it was back in the 80's or even four years ago.

                A lot of young coaches have no idea of the success Bradley had back in the 80's. There are going to be multiple firings take place as teams are eliminated from the post season conference tournaments. Coaching openings from the Big 10, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Pac 12, Big East, American Athletic and Atlantic 10 will get the top candidates due to exposure and money.

                Bradley needs to get a young coach that has aspirations on going to the next level, when he leaves here. He also needs to surround himself with quality assistants to can take the position when he moves on. This is what Butler did as well as some other schools. We need to have a stable program again, with sustained success.

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                • #38
                  now the Missouri State beat writer also saying he expects Geno Ford to be out..


                  funny - he also ranks their all time most memorable Arch Madness moments...
                  the one he has at #4 is every Bradley fan's #1..the Deon Jackson game winner shot!!!

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