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  • PJStar prints correction to the Jerrance Howard story

    "'Supervision', not 'probation'"
    Jerrance Howard was given "supervision" for marijuana possession last summer,
    which allows the case to be dismissed with no conviction on the defendant's record
    upon successful completion of the prescribed time, in this case six months.
    The case against Howard was dismissed Friday. A headline in Thursday's editions was incorrect.


    I know some will say it is a small point, and the PJS treats it as such with a tiny little "Correction" buried deep off the front page..

    But they correct their report that Howard was convicted and given probation - and state that in reality the charges were not pursued,
    he was instead offered court supervision with the charges to be dismissed when supervision completed, and that occurred yesterday.

    This is a significant difference since no record of the conviction will be recorded.


    All the Kansas newspapers went with the erroneous "probation" story that they were tipped off to...so they need to post corrections as well..
    will someone please tip off those guys about their responsibility to correct the story?

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    Most corrections seem to be small though

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    • #3
      PJ Star prints correction to the JH story

      I view the correction by the PJS as a major clarification to the JH matter. Further, Tornados post on this is excellent. In view of this, I favor and support the hiring of JH as our new head MBB coach.
      Wiz

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wizard View Post
        I view the correction by the PJS as a major clarification to the JH matter. Further, Tornados post on this is excellent. In view of this, I favor and support the hiring of JH as our new head MBB coach.
        Wiz




        You make it sound like nothing happened though....I can imagine how this would have been discussed here if it was an ISU assistant coach


        If this was a very qualified assistant coach and NOT from Peoria the administration would get blasted for even considering him at this time.....


        JH will probably get a chance if he's as talented as some think.....it may be a few years yet though...

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        • #5
          pJ Star prints correction

          Lefty.....While most of your posts and viewpoints are excellent, I must disagree with you on this one.
          1. JH did not have anything in his system and therefore was not smoking or abusing any substances.
          2. He accepted "Supervision" for 6 months and has completed that.
          3. He was not charged and his record was cleared.
          4. He apparently has had no other incidents of this type anywhere.
          5. The quantity of pot was small.
          6. Pot is now legal in 2states and others will very soon follow probably including Illinois.
          Let's not crucify an otherwise good guy for what was a minor error in judgement.
          Remember, a number of local coaches have also had poor judgement incidents but were retained in their coaching jobs.
          Wiz

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          • #6
            pJ Star prints correction.....

            Lefty.....One other point regarding JH.....His case was dismissed! I believe this means he is not guilty.
            Wiz

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            • #7
              while we don't know many if any of the specifics of the arrest...and thus, as so many others always caution like Kirk Wessler does with player arrests... we might best withhold some judgement...
              I am actually kinda surprised he hasn't already published the actual police report like he did with Ruffin. The mere fact that he hasn't makes me think it has info that would not support his agenda.

              anyway - as others have said in defense of similar infractions elsewhere-
              people are fools if they don't know that just about everyone in college is doing it....
              (even though I know many who do not do it) but it is the very argument of some who are now discarding that line to go after Jerrance.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wizard View Post
                Lefty.....One other point regarding JH.....His case was dismissed! I believe this means he is not guilty.
                Wiz


                Just because a case gets dismissed doesn't mean something didn't happen though........maybe it was dismissed because of who he was?...no idea really


                But somewhere along the line JH was stopped and weed was in his vehicle right?.....at least that's what it seems to me. There are plenty of other coaches that will be available and with better resumes than JH IMO....it just doesn't seem to me it's wise to pursue one with this info at this time...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wizard View Post
                  Lefty.....While most of your posts and viewpoints are excellent, I must disagree with you on this one.
                  1. JH did not have anything in his system and therefore was not smoking or abusing any substances.
                  2. He accepted "Supervision" for 6 months and has completed that.
                  3. He was not charged and his record was cleared.
                  4. He apparently has had no other incidents of this type anywhere.
                  5. The quantity of pot was small.
                  6. Pot is now legal in 2states and others will very soon follow probably including Illinois.
                  Let's not crucify an otherwise good guy for what was a minor error in judgement.
                  Remember, a number of local coaches have also had poor judgement incidents but were retained in their coaching jobs.
                  Wiz


                  But Wiz...if this was a guy you knew nothing about that BU was looking at would you feel the same way?


                  Regarding your last 2 points....


                  I agree 100% about not crucifying someone for a minor error...heck even a major one...but that doesn't mean someone doesn't have to live with consequences of poor judgement.....


                  your last point......big difference from someone being your coach already and handling a situation then hiring someone IMO....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    while we don't know many if any of the specifics of the arrest...and thus, as so many others always caution like Kirk Wessler does with player arrests... we might best withhold some judgement...
                    I am actually kinda surprised he hasn't already published the actual police report like he did with Ruffin. The mere fact that he hasn't makes me think it has info that would not support his agenda.

                    anyway - as others have said in defense of similar infractions elsewhere-
                    people are fools if they don't know that just about everyone in college is doing it....
                    (even though I know many who do not do it) but it is the very argument of some who are now discarding that line to go after Jerrance.


                    I'm not going after JH T.....but something obviously happened.....heck it may have been worse than recorded but changed because of who he was...or for some reason he was stopped and had a small of amount weed in his car for some reason........I really don' know. It just seems now that there will be available coaches without this little controversy that BU could hire.....


                    I'm not anti JH...I may not be as enamored with as you guys though....


                    I will tell you this though.......Over the last 27 years I have hired people who had a few blips in their past......90 percent of the time it came back to haunt me....that's all

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                    • #11
                      Also----whoever BU hires....I will support

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                      • #12
                        I know lefty - in fact most people and even most media have been rather kind given the arrest...but when we have a President who openly talks of huffing, and we celebrate just about anyone who does it in Hollywood -
                        and with it being legalized everywhere - I personally do not think it has the stigma that either it once did or that crack or heroin till do.
                        I do not condone nor would I want any of my kids doing it but I think it's now in the same realm as smoking in the boys room or chewing gum during class (I know I am gonna get hammered on this one).

                        I might be open to having Jerrance make a statement and becoming a spokesperson against drug use and that would sway me to be forgiving and not use his dismissed charge as an insurmountable hurdle.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          I know lefty - in fact most people and even most media have been rather kind given the arrest...but when we have a President who openly talks of huffing, and we celebrate just about anyone who does it in Hollywood -
                          and with it being legalized everywhere - I personally do not think it has the stigma that either it once did or that crack or heroin till do.
                          I do not condone nor would I want any of my kids doing it but I think it's now in the same realm as smoking in the boys room or chewing gum during class (I know I am gonna get hammered on this one).

                          I might be open to having Jerrance make a statement and becoming a spokesperson against drug use and that would sway me to be forgiving and not use his dismissed charge as an insurmountable hurdle.
                          I agree with what you are saying here but am curious to know what has caused you to have such a dramatic turn around on your stance concerning pot? If I recall correctly you have previously wanted harsh punishments for 18-20 year old kids that had pot arrests.

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                          • #14
                            I've been thinking, why did he have it in his possession to begin with?
                            What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chico View Post
                              I've been thinking, why did he have it in his possession to begin with?


                              that's a good question

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