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[Da Coach]

When newspaper people give out awards to themselves, it guarantees that newspaper people will win awards.

[tornado]

First, let me say that I think overall the local media covers things fairly well, and I think the sports reporting is generally fair & good.
But I think the reporting when it comes to Bradley is so clearly different in my judgement, we simply point out their errors & biases - what's wrong with that?

But - the awards the media wins are awards the media hands out to themselves on a regular basis calling themselves "excellent"...
Do the local car dealers hand out awards to themselves or local medical profession hand out Oscars to themselves?
If they did, people would laugh.

[lefty]

wow...it tooks 4 minutes to get a rise out of you guys......I would have expected sooner regarding PJS

[Biff]

And the award for Highest Sale Over Invoice goes to.........

[tornado]

BTW- if the press gets awards for when they do their job as it should be done-
then should they not also get some kind of notice (maybe a 2-day penalty from sportswriting?) when they report things erroneously or hurt people personally with false headlines about the facts or completely mistake things about a police report or do columns on pure speculative rumors that are not true?


Lately, laid off, retired, or fired sportswriters & columnists have often found new or other careers going to work for the very schools they covered - so...
you don't think that maybe has an influence on how they report?

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/genrel/072309aaa.html

http://www.golobos.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209076884

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=71481

[wily coyote]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think KW was elected President of the Sports Writers of American a year or two ago. Think he traveled to Hotlanta for the presentation. I also don't recall anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings on the Hilltop but I do remember seeing them on this site for a very short time. Now I'm not going to get in a dart throwing contest over who was acting professional or who wasn't. It seems fault maybe be plentiful in this instance.

[lefty]

What awards? I have seen a couple local, minor recognitions, but let me know the last time they won a recognizable achievement...

quick search but here's one from National Association Sportswriters and Sprotscasters

http://www.pjstar.com/article/20130110/News/301109778

[wily coyote]

quick search but here's one from National Association Sportswriters and Sprotscasters


http://www.pjstar.com/article/20130110/News/301109778

Thanks for the help Lefty I forgot about those. All those awards were probably some how fixed by the PJ Star.lol

[Da Coach]

Correct me if I'm wrong but...I also don't recall anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings on the Hilltop...

Actually, your memory may be failing you. I think this would qualify as "anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings" -
Kirk was the first one to report the likelihood there would be firings in his "Time to Turn the Page on Bradley Basketball" column way back on January 24-
http://www.pjstar.com/article/201501...5/12696/SPORTS (2nd paragraph on page 2)

And if Ford and athletics director Michael Cross are adept at reading signals, they’ll know Glasser’s impending exit means their time here is short — if not out.

So why are the apologists for the PJ Star crying about rumors posted on privately owned, little old fan message boards that nobody is required to read, while this distinguished and highly awarded writer did essentially the same thing weeks earlier?

[lefty]

Actually, your memory may be failing you. I think this would qualify as "anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings" -
Kirk was the first one to report there would be firings in his "Time to Turn the Page on Bradley Basketball" column way back on January 24-
http://www.pjstar.com/article/201501...5/12696/SPORTS (2nd paragraph on page 2)

And if Ford and athletics director Michael Cross are adept at reading signals, they??™ll know Glasser??™s impending exit means their time here is short ??” if not out.

So why are the apologists for the PJ Star crying about rumors posted on privately owned, little old fan message boards that nobody is required to read, while this distinguished and highly awarded writer did essentially the same thing weeks earlier?

For people that are objective there is a difference...their time here is short..if not out.....certainly nothing definite said in that statement......

[tornado]

for those who may not recall -
in spring of 2010, a full year before Jim Les was fired, Kirk Wessler had a full column about a rumor that was circulating that he was fired or was going to be fired, plus a loud, long thread was also started with a couple posters laying their entire reputation and honor on the truth that Les was fired in Feb-Mar of 2010 - and yet it was all false.

Then again - starting in Feb. of 2011, Kirk Wessler wrote a number of columns saying it was going to happen/should happen/was in motion, etc... and plenty of message boarders again discussed it as fact long before the decision was made.
Again - I don't recall an uproar to take those conversations down with pleadings direct from some info-sergeant at Bradley demanding the removal of that talk.

In fact some of those 2010 & 2011 message board discussions are STILL up on their respective boards, but the one here is long removed.
Interesting - major league double standard?

[wily coyote]

Actually, your memory may be failing you. I think this would qualify as "anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings" -
Kirk was the first one to report the likelihood there would be firings in his "Time to Turn the Page on Bradley Basketball" column way back on January 24-
http://www.pjstar.com/article/201501...5/12696/SPORTS (2nd paragraph on page 2)

And if Ford and athletics director Michael Cross are adept at reading signals, they??™ll know Glasser??™s impending exit means their time here is short ??” if not out.

So why are the apologists for the PJ Star crying about rumors posted on privately owned, little old fan message boards that nobody is required to read, while this distinguished and highly awarded writer did essentially the same thing weeks earlier?

Please show me anywhere in his column where he says they have been fired. Kirk did allude to the fact that MC and Geno may be gone in the future but no where did he say they were fired like this site posted. Yes you can deny it all you want but it was on here b4 your mods took it off. I not only read it but I read it to my wife. There is a huge difference between what was posted here and what Kirk wrote. It's pretty sad when some people can't or don't want to see the difference.

[Da Coach]

Yes. One is based 100% on conjecture (Kirk) and the other is actually based on some factual insight.

[wily coyote]

Yes. One is based 100% on conjecture (Kirk) and the other is actually based on some factual insight.

Not disputing it's going to happen but CAN YOU show to me in print. NOT what someone has told you.

[Da Coach]

Not disputing it's going to happen but CAN YOU show to me in print. NOT what someone has told you.

It was true when we reported it a week ago, and now here it finally is in print-
Michael Cross out as Bradley director of athletics

http://www.pjstar.com/article/20150216/SPORTS/150219345