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  • #31
    Thanks. Yes, as frustrated and vocal as we get, we just want Bradley to be successful and competitive again. Sometimes change is needed to turn things around. I will admit I did not think a complete change was in the program's best interest in 2011, but it clearly is now.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
      Kirk wanted JL fired since day one and he got it done.
      I could be wrong but don't think so. You people that think KW wanted JL fired from day one are all wrong. I am not speaking for KW but I don't think JL was his choice when we hired him. After we hired him I'd bet KW wanted JL to succeed because he bleeds BU red. It may not have taken long for a lot of us to see JL was not going to be the answer and KW may have been one of us, don't know. For us to complain that KW and DR don't call for Geno's head is ridicules. It's no secret JL and the PJ Star boys didn't get along hence not much info came from the BU camp. If KW and DR called for Geno's head we probably would not get much info again. Now which way would you want it.I don't think Geno has to read in the PJ Star to know that his seat is hot and a lot of people want him gone. Keep telling it like it is DR but it's hard to make chicken salad out of chicken sh-t.

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      • #33
        I thought we had long ago determined that it is NOT the job of the reporters nor the columnists to either LIKE or DISLIKE a head coach and certainly NOT their job to root for them nor against them - nor their job to "beat the drum" to get rid of them...
        They are supposed to be objective, fair-minded, and as unbiased as possible if they are to be believable...
        And yet we have Kirk Wessler stating plainly & publicly that's exactly what he did...starting in year two..

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        • #34
          DR as the reporter should be responsible for the who, what, where, when, why and how. KW, as Sports Editor, has the power of editorial comment ... similar to what occurs in the local/national news section of the paper.

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          • #35
            Wily coyote why has it taken so long for people to figure out that Geno is lost? I've been saying it since his first year. It's Stan Albeck all over again.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
              Wily coyote why has it taken so long for people to figure out that Geno is lost? I've been saying it since his first year. It's Stan Albeck all over again.
              I would guess your just smarter than the rest of us. I'm not 100% sure he is lost but I'm pretty sure he and his staff are lacking in either getting talent in here or if the current squad was who they wanted they lack talent evaluators. There just isn't much talent on that squad. I don't think any of them would get any minutes in the upper eight schools. With the exception of Josh.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                Wily coyote why has it taken so long for people to figure out that Geno is lost? I've been saying it since his first year. It's Stan Albeck all over again.
                I think some people wanted to give Geno the benefit of the doubt for a while, just to be fair. You may be the only person I know that knew Geno was lost his first year. I coached for 21 years and I'm glad nobody made a final decision on me in my first year. It's not Stan Albeck all over again. Stan's teams would have drilled this team. Stan forgot more than Geno knows. Stan was hired just to keep the team together. In my opinion, which isn't worth much, you don't coach the number of years that Stan did in the NBA if you are lost and don't know what you're doing. Stan just had no interest in chasing around 18 year old college kids and also surrounded himself with some very poor assistants. But to say he was lost is quite an exaggeration. Now back to Geno...a lot of people wanted him to fail before he coached one practice, because they were so high on Les. Geno has proven over time that he is under qualified for the coaching position and BU. He has proven to be an ineffective recruiter and well as a teacher of the game. It is now time for BU to move on with a new coach.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                  I would guess your just smarter than the rest of us. I'm not 100% sure he is lost but I'm pretty sure he and his staff are lacking in either getting talent in here or if the current squad was who they wanted they lack talent evaluators. There just isn't much talent on that squad. I don't think any of them would get any minutes in the upper eight schools. With the exception of Josh.
                  You are exactly right! I wish I could turn back the hands of time and see what Joe Stowell could have done with Xzavier Taylor, Jordan Prosser, Jermane Morgan and maybe even Nate Wells. Joe was a great post up teacher. He spent countless summers in South America and the Middle East teaching people the game. He took guys like Alex Majeica, Scott Brooks, Sam Allen, Greg Smith, Mike Davis and many others that were just ordinary players, and turned them into solid post players. This staff does not look like they are much on teaching. Otherwise you'd see improvement as the season and their careers go along.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                    Wily coyote why has it taken so long for people to figure out that Geno is lost? I've been saying it since his first year. It's Stan Albeck all over again.
                    I think it's more like a coincidence that you were right, rather than some sort of basketball brilliance.

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                    • #40
                      I've been around basketball all my life and smart basketball people it doesn't take long to see if the coach is good or not.

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                      • #41
                        here is the painful part...
                        even if we made massive changes right now - and even if we picked the very best people available...
                        I still cannot see how we break .500 in the MVC any time for at least another 3 years -
                        simply because we have recruited so incredibly badly that now the cupboard really is as bare as it gets.....
                        ...and we don't have a single player coming in - not just any who will help - I mean we don't have ANY - and none even for the forseeable future
                        The cupboard is so bare that even Kirk Wessler concedes there's really no D-I players there.

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                        • #42
                          Yes, it may be a long time before we are competitive again, but it is less painful than watching this program go down the toilet. If the right coach is here, we should improve from year to year. Fixing a basketball program is still easier than fixing a football program, with the possible exception of Michigan. It only takes a couple of good players on a basketball program for the whole team to play well.

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                          • #43
                            I guess so - there's a mid-major program out west that sure turned it around from almost nonexistent in just 3 years...
                            ...gets discouraging being this bad - I was reading over on the SIU message board - and as bad as they are this year -
                            their fans are licking their chops at playing us there in Carbondale next Wednesday...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              here is the painful part...
                              even if we made massive changes right now - and even if we picked the very best people available...
                              I still cannot see how we break .500 in the MVC any time for at least another 3 years -
                              simply because we have recruited so incredibly badly that now the cupboard really is as bare as it gets.....
                              ...and we don't have a single player coming in - not just any who will help - I mean we don't have ANY - and none even for the forseeable future
                              The cupboard is so bare that even Kirk Wessler concedes there's really no D-I players there.
                              I disagree. The Missouri Valley is not a strong conference once you get by the top three teams. It has been that way for quite a while. As bad as we are, and we are bad, we are not that far out of places 3rd thru 6th. If we made changes and got the "best players" available we would be able to move up very quickly in the MVC standing. Even though we are horrible, the teams we would be competing with for the middle of the standings, are NOT teams that participate in post season tournaments, such as the NIT or NCAA on a regular basis. They are teams that play in tournaments that you must pay big money to get into. Those in my mind are not tournaments to be proud of. Our program is nothing that a little recruiting and good solid coaching can't take care of. It's not like we're rebuilding Hiroshima after World War II.

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                              • #45
                                But Vent - we have no offense....it's so bad that even Kirk Wessler now notices we have absolutely nobody that can score?
                                Of course he's criticizing the players - but it's the system also...

                                Did you not see where someone noted that opposing coaches see Bradley's offense as laughably easy to defend!!

                                Do you not remember whenever we've had TV announcers for our games who are not PAID employees of Bradley and whenever they are free to be honest - they note how ridiculous our offense is - how poorly run our plays are...(although our guys are beginning to notice and comment)

                                Do you remember when we played at Michigan and the pplay-by-play guys talked the entire game about how Michigan was running offense while all our guys were doing was repeatedly going 1-on-5 with selfish solo-play that obviously was doomed to failure?

                                Remember when the team got constantly ripped for never finishing higher than 4th - well under this system & staff it's gonna be never higher than 7th.
                                And where we never significantly competed for the title after mid-February - it's gonna be "never significantly competing for the title after early January"...

                                And instead of having a s few empty seats - it's having vast swaths of empties - and virtually nobody in the upper bowl because Dr. Cross says it's irrelevant if anyone buys those tickets.

                                Nope - the earliest a ground-up rebuild would help us is 3-4 years down the road...the cupboard is worse than bare... it's even got cockroaches in it...

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