Bradley blown out by Loyola- Final- Loyola 64 Bradley 49

[bula-bloom]

great post. .

This team is bad, very bad. The only light at the end of the tunnel is another train. I don't think the talent is as bad as this team is playing. The coaching however, is as bad as I've ever seen. Geno would be well served to resign and take his sense of humor to the comedy club on Farmington Road. He may be funny, but he isn't a basketball coach. Shaheen needs to step to the plate and make changes. If he doesn't, that explains why moral
at CAT is as bad as it is. I have watched BU basketball since the 1963-64 season and have seen BU lose more games by bigger margins in the last 2 years, against weaker teams, than I have in all prior years combined. This is not about Les vs. Ford. I'm tired of hearing that. People need to get past that. That is wasted energy to bring that up all the time. People's minds are not going to change and at this point it is non relevant. We'd be much better off if the idle talk of past decisions would be placed on mounting an effort to change the current course of this university and basketball program.

I agree with all you said. .and remember this is the same coach that lost on Thursday to loyola in St louis last year and walked off the court without shaking hands. Bad coach and bad sport.

[Vent]

From what I've seen, I think BU will lose all road games and only beat Drake and maybe SIU and IND State at home. That would be a record of 3-15 in the conference. About the middle of the MVC season, the boo birds will come out at home games and it will get real ugly. I hate to be pessimistic but I don't think there is anyway around this. Other things that will happen...the gutless Board of Trustees will do nothing, Glasser will throw Cross under the bus as he resigns and Ford will get rid of most of his staff and replace them with God only knows who. You must remember, he hired his own staff. Attendance will only average around 4,000 actual butts in the seats, with seats in the lower bowl and end zone near the BU bench, mostly empty. On the road BU will lose by an average of 10-14 points and at home by an average of 6. I also think BU will sell about 100 tickets for the tournament in St. Louis.

[bula-bloom]

Bradley has won 3 games on the road in the last 3 seasons.

It is what it is ...... another road loss! Go undefeated at home and steal 1 or 2 on the road and you avoid Thurs.

Hey we didnt get beat at home to ISU blue..........

REALLY? OPTIMISM is one thing but fantasy is another. I watched isu's yesterday and both will easily beat bradley twice.

[BU Bill]

From what I know, Gerry Shaheen deserves a lot of the blame for his one-man effort that bypassed much better candidates and hired his own personal choice in Joanne Glasser in 2007. If he, or anyone else on the Board had done their homework, it would have been easy to find that she had all the same problems at Eastern Kentucky that she has created now at Bradley. It was a huge mistake.

But he is no longer the Board Chairman, so he is just 1 member on the Board now, and does not have the kind of power he once did. However, I have heard he is no longer a fan of Joanne, and is among the members that are working to make a change. It's about time imo, he and JG have done irreparable harm to Bradley.

[Biff]

here is Kirk Wessler's column- he says he is tired of writing about the negatives of Bradley (although I have seen many) so his New Year's resolution is to focus only on the positives...http://www.pjstar.com/article/201412...5/12701/SPORTS

Funny, I can't remember any time during Jim Les' time as coach when Kirk ever focused only on positives.

Why is he chickening out now, ignoring the obvious problems, and abandoning his job to be objective? Not that he has had any credibility for a long time.

[Chico]

Bradleyfan 1 you're right. We didn't get beat by ISU Blue on our home court. We got beat by Augustana on our future home court.

[Da Coach]

Chico, I'm not sure what you meant, but the Augustana game was at the Carver Arena.

[Chico]

Chico, I'm not sure what you meant, but the Augustana game was at the Carver Arena.

Sorry. I should have said our soon to be ex-home court.

[tornado]

From what I know, Gerry Shaheen deserves a lot of the blame..

Shaheen is primarily responsible for the trainwreck that is Bradley ..but in all honesty - he has been a great benefactor and leader - so I don't really blame him - but the rest of the board that just rubber-stamped his decisions bears the blame as well...
...and yet nobody - not the Board, not the PJStar, and largely nobody else has ever heralded his part in engineering this mess or held him accountable..

Attendance will only average around 4,000 actual butts in the seats...

you are optimistic...
unless some very major and very exciting and optimistic changes are made soon - masses will bail & the home attendance will drop to the 2000 range

[turtle]

Shaheen is primarily responsible for the trainwreck that is Bradley ..but in all honesty - he has been a great benefactor and leader - so I don't really blame him - but the rest of the board that just rubber-stamped his decisions bears the blame as well...
...and yet nobody - not the Board, not the PJStar, and largely nobody else has ever heralded his part in engineering this mess or held him accountable..




you are optimistic...
unless some very major and very exciting and optimistic changes are made soon - masses will bail & the home attendance will drop to the 2000 range

most have already bailed - I wouldnt go watch this bunch or that lousy coach

[tornado]

2104 has not been a good year for Bradley team sports....regardless of some lame letter from the Chairman of the Board telling everyone that Bradley's athletic performance is better than at any time in the past 30 years...

Here are the cumulative W-L records of all the team sports that Bradley sponsors
- the major sports that get covered by the media and that people pay to watch...
thus far... in calendar year 2014


.......overall record, conference record (for some sports the numbers reflect some of last season and this season - whatever fell in 2014)
Baseball 24-27, 5-16
MBasketball 12-21, 7-13
Soccer 9-11, 1-5
WBasketball 6-24, 5-14
Volleyball 2-26, 2-16
Softball 27-32, 15-12
Total.....80-141 (0.362), 35-76 (0.315)

I doubt you will find a single year in BU's history with numbers that bad in every sport, although with Baseball's 2-19 MVC record the prior year
and MBasketball's 7-25 in GF's 1st year we have been coming close each of the past 3 years as well.....!

If the people on the Board can't see the obvious then we, as Bradley fans, are doomed to have to see even more of this...

[turtle]

2104 has not been a good year for Bradley team sports....regardless of some lame letter from the Chairman of the Board telling everyone that Bradley's athletic performance is better than at any time in the past 30 years...

Here are the cumulative W-L records of all the team sports that Bradley sponsors
- the major sports that get covered by the media and that people pay to watch...
thus far... in calendar year 2014


.......overall record, conference record (for some sports the numbers reflect some of last season and this season - whatever fell in 2014)
Baseball 24-27, 5-16
MBasketball 12-21, 7-13
Soccer 9-11, 1-5
WBasketball 6-24, 5-14
Volleyball 2-26, 2-16
Softball 27-32, 15-12
Total.....80-141 (0.362), 35-76 (0.315)

I doubt you will find a single year in BU's history with numbers that bad in every sport, although with Baseball's 2-19 MVC record the prior year
and MBasketball's 7-25 in GF's 1st year we have been coming close each of the past 3 years as well.....!

If the people on the Board can't see the obvious then we, as Bradley fans, are doomed to have to see even more of this...

time for a drop to D 2 or 3 -- all the old alumni must be ashamed and yet afraid to speak up about the decline of BU sports

[tornado]

the window is closing on what needs to be done to get this program back to solid DI level...

we not only were there thru the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and up thru the first decade of 2000 - but at times we excelled - not all the time but every year we had sellouts and some great wins -- PLUS every few years we had some post-season success....
But now we are dwindling to DII or DIII level - just at a time that a massive earthquake in NCAA basketball is about to split the haves & have-nots...

We have stupidly shot ourselves in the foot with such bad decisions over the past 3-4 years that we have willingly played ourselves from the HAVES's side over to the HAVE-NOT's side...
We are looking at playing small time ball in a small-time arena in front of tiny, disinterested crowds, and producing Savannah State-caliber results (apologies to Savannah State).

With all the conference realignment and new rules - all of DI basketball will shortly be split in two with one being far more successful -
and we were right there with the Wichita State's, Dayton's, Creighton's, Butler's, and others that were among the big boys...
we were right there until the moves over the past half-decade have now moved us down to the DII end of DI.

But I insist it is not too late - that Wichita has turned their fortunes around in just 5-6 years..
In 2007-2008 they were 11-20 and the program looked terrible..
They lost to Monmouth, Texas Arlington, UMKC, Northern Arizona...
But they made good moves, hired the right people, and are now among the elite - and it's not too late for us to do it, too.
Our people have chosen far more poorly and driven us completely the opposite direction..

PLEASE - do not let the same people make the decisions this time around - that is absolutely critical.

... let's get it done.

[Da Coach]

There is simply no reason with the huge and loyal fan base, the financial support, the state-of-the-art facilities, the proximity to the most fertile recruiting area in America, and the history and tradition that is unrivaled in the MVC, that Bradley shouldn't be among the upper half of the league every year, and produce winning records every year, schedule good opponents, be able to beat good opponents, to be competetive and win road games, and reward their fans with exciting play, postseason tournaments, and enjoyable games and other events.

Unfortunately, the program has been hi-jacked by people who have no connection, and no appreciation of Bradley's history and past success. Furthermore, they don't care, because it is their intent to change everything and completely eliminate that past. They also have never had previous success in building and maintaining a successful athletic department anywhere, and IMO, they are not capable of doing that. They have proven beyond doubt to be failures, and are not capable of turning things around. Our only hope is to change the leadership from top down before it is too late. Unfortunately, many people saw this coming several years ago, and nobody listened. Now many of those valuable boosters that a program cannot succeed without, have gone, and the rest are one step out the door.

[turtle]

There is simply no reason with the huge and loyal fan base, the financial support, the state-of-the-art facilities, the proximity to the most fertile recruiting area in America, and the history and tradition that is unrivaled in the MVC, that Bradley shouldn't be among the upper half of the league every year, and produce winning records every year, schedule good opponents, be able to beat good opponents, to be competetive and win road games, and reward their fans with exciting play, postseason tournaments, and enjoyable games and other events.

Unfortunately, the program has been hi-jacked by people who have no connection, and no appreciation of Bradley's history and past success. Furthermore, they don't care, because it is their intent to change everything and completely eliminate that past. They also have never had previous success in building and maintaining a successful athletic department anywhere, and IMO, they are not capable of doing that. They have proven beyond doubt to be failures, and are not capable of turning things around. Our only hope is to change the leadership from top down before it is too late. Unfortunately, many people saw this coming several years ago, and nobody listened. Now many of those valuable boosters that a program cannot succeed without, have gone, and the rest are one step out the door.

Its sad -- I wish the PJ Star would get more and more critical of this situation