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  • #61
    Geno's record at Kent State should have no bearing on evaluating his performance here, and should not buy him one extra day if his results do not meet expectations of the administration or the fans.

    I could name hundreds of past and present Division I head coaches who had even far greater success at a lower level before getting a job coaching at a Division I school, and failing. Former coaches here have been fired by this administration, despite achieving far greater success than we now see rewarded with coaching extensions.

    In my opinion, the only reason Geno might be treated differently than the last coach, or all the other coaches at Bradley who have been fired by this administration (including numerous basketball assistants and other sports' head coaches, trainers, and other department personnel) is the irrational personal decision making by our administration where they seem to reward losing because they can't accept that they are part of the problem and won't admit their own failures.

    Despite the huge increase in spending on the athletic programs, and the state-of-the-art $50 million upgrade of facilities, can anyone name a single coach that Bradley has hired under the current administration who has had significant, sustained success, or even one single successful NCAA appearance (or any postseason event that can't be achieved by "buying into it")?

    Men's basketball, Women's basketball, Volleyball, Softball, Baseball, Tennis, and nearly every minor sport every year have all had losing records for almost the entire tenure of this administration. The cumulative records of every sport, except men's soccer (ironically the only coach not hired by the current admins) is too ugly to print here. Last place finishes have become commonplace every year in one or more sports.

    When is enough, enough? Bradley has become the laughingstock of the Missouri Valley, and fans and donations are on life support. The end is near.

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    • #62
      I don't think anyone feels GF should get extra time or have a bearing on evaluating his performance because of his past record.
      He had some winning experience at Kent State??¦yes I know with other coach's recruits??¦.same as here so it seems to be a valid question??¦

      Maybe it will be another Greg McDermott story??¦.who knows.

      I know GF wasn't first choice either??¦??¦for some reason BU's hiring process the last two times have been fiascos??¦??¦..I'm not talking about who was hired but the processes in doing so??¦..

      I certainly am not calling it a year after losing an exhibition game but if the year goes like last year then it seems BU would be in a real bad spot on what to do with Geno.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        he was only there at Kent State 3 years, never had an NCAA team, and had a bunch of player issues/arrests there as well-
        you don't become a "proven head coach" in just 3 years playing mostly with the kids your predecessor recruited...
        You can promote his credentials all you want - but a lot of fans knew at the time that he was our 8th or 9th pick among all the hiring candidates that were approached - and when you have to dip that low you are not getting a proven candidate
        He had success recruiting he was able to hold his team together and if this was not true why the back to back coach of the year? Is that something that is just given out 2 years in row by coincidence?
        By the way who was our last coy?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by bravetime33 View Post
          He had success recruiting he was able to hold his team together and if this was not true why the back to back coach of the year? Is that something that is just given out 2 years in row by coincidence?
          By the way who was our last coy?
          So do you think a coach should be given more time just because he was a previous Coach of the Year at a lower level conference?
          We were promised this change would lead to championships and regular NCAA appearances, yet the basketball program is nosediving and headed into oblivion and irrelevance.
          Everyone said that we should be competing for championships once we reach Geno's 4th year and he has all his own players. Do you feel we are at that level?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by bravetime33 View Post
            He had success recruiting he was able to hold his team together and if this was not true why the back to back coach of the year? Is that something that is just given out 2 years in row by coincidence?
            By the way who was our last coy?
            I guess if that's all it takes to make you happy - that he was somewhat successful somewhere else...then more power to ya

            I want results HERE as do the vast majority of Bradley fans - many of whom - probably even more then half of whom have already given up and don't care any more

            what more is it gonna take - are you willing like Kirk Wessler - to give this "several more years of rebuilding"?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
              The conference now is a lot weaker. Geno started with better players than Les did.
              So Geno had a future NBA All Star on his team? Does Danny Granger ring a bell? Your point is moot. The conference is a lot weaker? Have you heard of this team named the Shockers? Ford may need to go but we need to lay off the Les comparisons. If we were going to do that why don't we compare him to Molinari in his first 3 years?
              Bleed Red

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              • #67
                Look at all the cup cakes Geno plays.

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                • #68
                  Look at the conferences RPI now.

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                  • #69
                    Your right the only coach you can compare Geno too is Stan Albeck.

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                    • #70
                      Losing Creighton didn't make the MVC a lot weaker?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Duane82 View Post
                        So Geno had a future NBA All Star on his team? Does Danny Granger ring a bell? Your point is moot...

                        so what - clearly he didn't help anyone win any games, while JL's leftovers accounted for virtually all of GF's wins to date...

                        Granger scored a grand total of 269 points for JL - what happened to him well after that hardly helped JL but is a nice credit to Jim Molinari

                        Walt Lemon scored well over 1500 points for GF helping him win the few games he did win.
                        ..even Jake Eastman had almost twice as many points and rebounds for GF as Danny Granger had for JL.

                        We have waited patiently for 4 seasons as the media and others has said give him 3 or 4 seasons to get his own players, and we'll be competing for championships...
                        well, I am still waiting, but instead of seeing another 9-10,000 fans there waiting along with me I saw only about 2,000 - so a lot of people have given up.
                        Please try not to blame me or the other faithful fans for that.

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                        • #72
                          Granger didn't play for Molinari did he? Thought he quit during the season earlier.
                          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Chico View Post
                            Granger didn't play for Molinari did he? Thought he quit during the season earlier.
                            I thought he played his freshman year for Mo. Left during his soph season

                            I could be wrong I didn't take time to look it up

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Chico View Post
                              Granger didn't play for Molinari did he? Thought he quit during the season earlier.
                              Yes, Granger played his freshman year for Molinari in 2001-02. He then played the first part of the 2002-03 season until January 11, 2003 for new coach Jim Les, until quitting after that infamous trip to Evansville on January 11, 2003. After missing the bus to Evansville, he caught a ride with redshirt freshman Danny Adams (who by NCAA rules was not able to travel with the team) and caught up with the team at the Beef House Restaurant in Indiana. He then scored a career high in the game at Evansville, which Bradley lost 93-79. Then, according to Granger, he was forced to starve on the way home, which according to him, was akin to slavery, because he said he had hypoglycemia. It is interesting that in his years at New Mexico, and throughout his long NBA career, there has never been another mention of him having hypoglycemia.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                so what - clearly he didn't help anyone win any games, while JL's leftovers accounted for virtually all of GF's wins to date...

                                Granger scored a grand total of 269 points for JL - what happened to him well after that hardly helped JL but is a nice credit to Jim Molinari

                                Walt Lemon scored well over 1500 points for GF helping him win the few games he did win.
                                ..even Jake Eastman had almost twice as many points and rebounds for GF as Danny Granger had for JL.

                                We have waited patiently for 4 seasons as the media and others has said give him 3 or 4 seasons to get his own players, and we'll be competing for championships...
                                well, I am still waiting, but instead of seeing another 9-10,000 fans there waiting along with me I saw only about 2,000 - so a lot of people have given up.
                                Please try not to blame me or the other faithful fans for that.
                                Ok so then we will reference Marcellous Somerville. Troll is a troll when trolling troll
                                Bleed Red

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