Where are the hypocrites?

[tornado]

winning is only 50% of the equation - we have to battle to get the fans back - I am worried that even winning won't get many of them back now.
A few more of those who had their seats taken from them to be sold as "premium seating" to someone else - have decided that was the last straw and have given up their season tickets...there were at lot of empty seats even at courtside & in the lower bowl...

[Toyota12]

It is time to evaluate upper management and make changes. I think the AD and his boss should be replaced and then see what happens to the athletic coaches and teams. Dwelling on Geno at this time is a moot point it is clearly a failure from the top down.

[kds]

It is time to evaluate upper management and make changes. I think the AD and his boss should be replaced and then see what happens to the athletic coaches and teams. Dwelling on Geno at this time is a moot point it is clearly a failure from the top down.

I totally agree and it should happen very very, very soon. Maybe it should have already happened to save the programs.

[LittleBrave]

Sorry, but being hypocritical and stirring up people to become hypocritical of Coach Ford makes you on the same level of being hypocritical of JL.
Now everyone is guilty of being hypocritical, so let's just get over it and say the last good stretch of basketball was in the Coach Mo era...though that pales in comparison to what we were in the 80's when I was too young to avidly follow BU hoops.

You gotta be joking to think we have met expectations in either of the Les and Ford eras...no way can we be happy with much in the last 10 seasons except for a very brief time of success in the last era, but that was short lived.
Ford has a short time to turn things around, but it doesn't look promising. I'm very disappointed in this era and not very hopeful...not sure if I would be more miserable and frustrated in this current state of the program (aside from the AD and such) or continuing 4th - 5th place finishes in the MVC with Coach Les had he stayed...either way I would probably get close to the point of apathy...where I am now...can't help it, but too exhausting to focus so much attention on this team and being falsely optimistic at the start of every freakin season.

[Da Coach]

Why keep bringing up the JL era? Let's stop trying to justify the failures of the last 3 1/2 years by saying "we weren't so well off with the last coach". This era was promised to be far better, with an $800,000 a year coach, millions more spent on the program for recruiting, assistants, etc, and of course, a $50+ milion investment on infrastructure. These were supposed to be the return of the glory years.

[bu fan 9]

I've been saying sine the first game Geno coached at BU he's a bad coach. It's not hard to see.

[TheAsianSensation]

Why keep bringing up the JL era? Let's stop trying to justify the failures of the last 3 1/2 years by saying "we weren't so well off with the last coach". This era was promised to be far better, with an $800,000 a year coach, millions more spent on the program for recruiting, assistants, etc, and of course, a $50+ milion investment on infrastructure. These were supposed to the return of the glory years.

I agree to stop bringing up the JL era...but for God's sake, look at the first post in this thread. At the risk of sounding like a juvenile, you started it

[bravetime33]

I know some people do not like me reminding them that I predicted all this fallout 3 1/2 years ago, so I apologize if this offends you. Please stop reading if it does.

But it was obvious that we were headed in the wrong direction, and those in charge were clueless how to build a successful, winning program.
Here we are at the start of year 4 of their so-called "rebuild", and things are worse than ever. We saw the smallest Civic Center crowd last night in the history of Carver Arena, except for the infamous "snow game" Jan. 31, 2011.
Fan support is at an all time low. Revenues are dropping like a lead balloon. The games aren't on TV any more, and the once massive, loyal, and generous fan base has been squandered.

Recall that over 8 years ago, some "fans" started this thread-

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57

And note that was in year 4 of the previous coach, with a team loaded with talent that would go on to a 22-win season (playing a far stronger schedule), a Top 40 RPI, and a Sweet 16, and one of the most successful seasons in Bradley history. Now we are mired in a stretch of 3 straight seasons of playing and losing on Thursday in St. Louis, and a team that is projected for another 9th place finish, if we're lucky, and unable to beat or even compete with a D3 team that would finish 11th in the MVC. Funny that we don't see any of the same demands for change now. That's called hypocrisy.

So the question is obvious- is this program on the right track? Is it time for some wholesale changes? Do we keep going and expect things to suddenly get better? How many more fans will bail out?

Yea but les did not win a conference tournament game his first 3 years same as Geno yet he inherited a much stronger team than Geno

[bu fan 9]

The conference now is a lot weaker. Geno started with better players than Les did.

[mexicobufan]

The season hasn't started yet and everyone is done? A lot of new guys, we didnt have our PG and our best big. It isnt over guys. Give it a month or so and if they are not winning then give up!

[Da Coach]

I agree to stop bringing up the JL era...but for God's sake, look at the first post in this thread. At the risk of sounding like a juvenile, you started it

OMG- the first post is about how horrible the Bradley basketball program has become, and how we used to have people, especially in the media who were not scared sh**less to actually point that out instead of covering up for the ineptitude of the current regime, and making excuses for them.
Maybe you are happy with the way things are, then you need to return to the make-believe world on another board where delusional people think things are wonderful, and they are blind to the realities of how far this program has fallen.
I have been right about everything else that has happened these last 3 1/2 years, now, finally others are realizing it. Sorry if you don't like reading the truth.
Unfortunately many of the people who have supported this program are fed up and are pulling their support. I have already heard from a bunch of them today, as so has Mike Cross and JG.
The clock is now ticking....

[TheAsianSensation]

The previous coach had 5 straight winning seasons, and over 100 wins in those 5 straight seasons, compared to the unprecedented number of losses the last 3 years. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but IMO, you are wrong. There is nothing in the years previous to the coaching change to suggest we couldn't have returned to winning seasons and respectability, as was the case 5 of those last 6 seasons.

The only losing season in the 6 seasons prior to the coaching change was when the team was without 2 All-MVC players. Even our administration admitted that the coach could not be held responsible for that unsuccessful season.

Oh, and by the way, even in that 2010-2011 season with Taylor Brown and Sam Maniscalco out, the RPI was still not a bad as it was last year, and likely will be this year as well.

If the only defense the apologists can muster now is "Well we'd still be worse off if we didn't make a change", then that shows how pathetic their argument is. This athletic department has spent millions of donors dollars to hire a new coaching staff, millions more on massive increases in recruiting budgets and promotion, and marketing, and it is a total failure and an embarrassment.
We were promised by our Athletic Director that we would be competing for championships every year. Now all we have is weak excuses.
No wonder thousands of fans were AWOL last night, and most of them are not likely to return. This program is in the worst state in the last 70 years, and without major changes, it will not get better.
And people can differ in their opinion, but again, sorry to remind, but I have been right almost 100% about what I have predicted, and most people know I am right about this. Tell me where there is even a glimmer of a reason to think they know how to build a winning and successful program?

Fair, we have a difference in opinion on if we would've gotten back to the "baseline level" (for lack of a better term) that was established by JL in his best years. I think not, you think so, nothing we say will convince the other.

I have no issue with anyone who wants to criticize the admins. Right now, it's fair to criticize the results of the MBB program. But when some have criticized them for multiple years, nonstop, it's kind of like a "boy cries wolf" situation. Even if you're right, you were so premature on the call, you lose the credibility in the argument.

For the record, the "Well we'd still be worse off if we didn't make a change" argument...it's always been there. It's not just showing up today.

And congrats for being right on everything you predicted. Must be proud of that.

[Da Coach]

I love being right, and thanks for acknowledging it. I have no doubt thjat I am right now in saying things will not get better without major changes.
I hate losing and being an embarrassment in men's basketball, and nearly every other sport. That is what we've clearly become. Maybe you don't mind.
Other schools at least have the sense to realize when they have hit rock bottom. Here we have apologists who close their eyes and whistle past the graveyard.
This experiment has been a disaster, and the ship is sinking.
Time for a major change.....

[Da Coach]

As several people here know, the Board of Trustees were all at the Bradley game last night, and it was not a social event. They was there for a specific reason, and I have heard from at least one of them that they were disgusted at a number of things. They weren't the only ones.

[Chico]

Can anyone tell me who, besides Bradley, would fire a coach after a 32-3 season? Our program has gone down ever since.