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    Reynolds: Full speed ahead for BU’s bigs

  • #2
    Good story - thanks to DR


    "...we’re basing our starters for the two preseason competitions on the
    first five guys on the list (minus Barnes),” Ford said. “We want to reward
    the guys who’ve played the best.."


    The "list" being a point system/ratings formula also referred to as
    "practice efficiency ratings" that "evaluates every possible statistic so it
    doesn’t favor either the perimeter or the big guys".


    currently JOSH CUNNINGHAM and XZAVIER TAYLOR "are ranked first
    and second on the team this week on the newly instituted practice efficiency ratings."

    ..also mentioned doing well on the "list" -
    AUSTON BARNES, MIKE SHAW, WARREN JONES, OMARI GRIER, DONTE
    THOMAS, JERMAINE MORGAN, TRAMIQUE SUTHERLAND.


    Rostered players not mentioned: Anthony Fields, Nate Wells, Kendahl Amerson, Ka'Darryl Bell, walk-on Jackson Kane.



    LASTLY
    "Season tickets can be picked up at the Coliseum ticket office next Tuesday"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dave Reynolds in his article
      Overall this fall, lone senior Auston Barnes has a slight lead over Mike Shaw. Guards Warren Jones and Omari Grier, forward Donte Thomas and forward/center Jermaine Morgan also have graded out well. Point guard Tramique Sutherland has also made strides on the list as of late.
      These practice efficiency rankings are an interesting and novel way for a head coach to evaluate his players and make decisions about starters.

      It does strike me that a couple players that most people, including Geno, have suggested were going to be important players this season, Amerson and Bell, are conspicuous by there absence in Dave's list of players' rankings. And possibly the most important player, the point guard Sutherland, doesn't appear to be scoring as high overall on the rankings, though he has "made strides".
      It will be interesting to see if the 5 starters for the Augustana exhibition are the players most fans expected.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        These practice efficiency rankings are an interesting and novel way for a head coach to evaluate his players and make decisions about starters.

        It does strike me that a couple players that most people, including Geno, have suggested were going to be important players this season, Amerson and Bell, are conspicuous by there absence in Dave's list of players' rankings. And possibly the most important player, the point guard Sutherland, doesn't appear to be scoring as high overall on the rankings, though he has "made strides".
        It will be interesting to see if the 5 starters for the Augustana exhibition are the players most fans expected.
        The idea of grading practices and making it known to the players seems like a great way to make players accountable for their actions and reward/encourage hard work. It will be worth noting if it engenders any bad feelings towards Geno if he doesn't assign playing time based off of these rankings, instead playing based off of match ups and gut feelings.
        Gotta stop feeding the trolls.

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        • #5
          ihatetea-
          I know some coaches abhor systems like this because no matter how it's drawn up - there could be unfair weight given to some things like scoring when unmeasurables (certain defensive efforts, hustle, attitude, chemistry) are not easily seen in such formulas.
          Some coaches would rile at the idea that one would need a formula to evaluate the talent they have or to decide on who should start. They BELIEVE in "gut feelings".

          U of I has had a similar point system, although I don't know how much it's used to determine starters - Jon Ekey & Nnana Egwu were the Illini's leaders last year in Matto points
          ...and when Mike Shaw was a freshman at Illinois - he was their leader in Matto points - yet he never played!!!



          Oddly, though, the very guy the system was named after (Matt Heldman) didn't play much and wasn't a starter - so go figure

          That being said - I think it's fine to give it a try - especially since this formula seems to be something Geno says is going to be used only for the first two exhibitions, one of which we are not going to see or even know about.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            U of I has had a similar point system, although I don't know how much it's used to determine starters - Jon Ekey & Nnana Egwu were the Illini's leaders last year in Matto points
            ...and when Mike Shaw was a freshman at Illinois - he was their leader in Matto points - yet he never played!!!



            Oddly, though, the very guy the system was named after (Matt Heldman) didn't play much and wasn't a starter - so go figure
            For the sake of clarity, I think you are misremembering Matt's Illinois career. Just a quick search found stats for Matt's junior season, where he started 26 or 32 games and averaged 10.1 points per game. I couldn't find how many games he started as a senior, but he did average 10.9 ppg in his final season.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Old Coach View Post
              For the sake of clarity, I think you are misremembering Matt's Illinois career. Just a quick search found stats for Matt's junior season, where he started 26 or 32 games and averaged 10.1 points per game. I couldn't find how many games he started as a senior, but he did average 10.9 ppg in his final season.
              Yes Heldman was a pretty important piece, especially as a senior.

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              • #8
                ok - I stand corrected - I didn't recall much - but for 3 years he played behind Kiwane Garris ... - didn't really have much impact til he was a junior & senior - over which span he averaged about 10 pts/3 asst not really among the team leaders

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  ok - I stand corrected - I didn't recall much - but for 3 years he played behind Kiwane Garris ... - didn't really have much impact til he was a junior & senior - over which span he averaged about 10 pts/3 asst not really among the team leaders


                  here's why the Matto award exists..'








                  Started all 33 games his senior year and within 15 minutes of total minutes played that year and while he was 3rd on the team in scoring that year the award was based on hustle and enthusiasm

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