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  • How disconnected is NCAA?

    You decide...do they see college sports the way the fans do or are they all into MONEY & SOCIAL ENGINEERING?
    ....I will offer this evidence....

    First - what RIGHT NOW are the most important things, the most pressing concerns in college sports?

    --I would state my answers as:
    I love college sports and 95% of it is great and needs NO fix, but...
    there's cheating and unethical recruiting (neither of which seems very important to the NCAA enforcement people and seems to always go unpunished even when it is caught), greed at all levels that leads to demands for re-organization, and an emphasis on individual STARDOM & GLORY that hurts the overall concepts of TEAMWORK & GOOD ACADEMICS.

    -BUT - here's what the NCAA appears to list as their MOST PRESSING CONCERNS
    -- they are all he**-bent worried about "For-profit schools" - considering there's only one of them in all of Division I, this topic sure seems to rile a lot of people
    --they are all hung up on politics, political correctness and see it as their job to punish perceived offenders (phobias over flags, mascots, logos..)
    --then the last concern is funny - they know that the term NCAA and "executive comittee" have become despised terms because of how badly they have run things - so they want to make a...
    NAME CHANGE... - a makeover...yup that's right - they want to change the wording so "members feel better" and there's not such a bad connotation when the terms NCAA and "Executive Committee" show up in the press.
    I am not joking....read about it here....


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    BTW - there's one other separate NCAA story....

    They just came down hard & hammered a small DII named Cheyney State University...
    Post-season bans, vacated wins, FIVE years of future probation, loss of NCAA voting privileges, show-cause penalties, and MORE
    Cheyney University of Pennsylvania lacked institutional control over its certification processes, according to a decision issued Thursday by the Division II Committee on Infractions. During the 2007-08 through 2010-11 academic years, the university violated NCAA rules in the certification of initial, transfer and continuing eligibility involving all sports programs. During the four-year period, numerous student-athletes competed while ineligible due to improper certification.



    ...and yet read the release....
    ALL the violations were just paperwork problems..."improper paperwork certification"..
    AND all of it was SELF-REPORTED and self-punishment imposed, plus they fully cooperated with NCAA and handed over everything needed.
    ...every ineligible athlete simply didn't have his paperwork done properly --

    NOT one athlete cheated nor received any benefit or a single dollar that wasn't proper had the paperwork been done!! They gained ZERO advantage - this was all just sloppy or lazy paperwork & compliance work!
    Wow - plenty of schools and coaches like USC, Bruce Pearl, Kelvin Sampson, etc...blatantly cheat and gain huge advantages and get punished less than these guys...


    Once again - this shows to me the disconnect between what fans want - just a fair & clean system - and that NCAA never goes after or penalizes the real cheaters - instead taking it out on the little guys whose violations are minor.


    Meanwhile in other news - Bruce Pearl is free to coach & cheat again, big schools like Michigan State seem to get favorable rulings on IMMEDIATE ELIGIBILITY for their transfers, big boys like Utah, BYU, SMU, and Notre Dame and Georgia Tech have far MORE and far worse cheating yet get virtually NO penalties.

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    • #3
      A couple years back the NCAA cut back on their enforcement staff....yet claimed they were going to be way more efficient in finding and penalizing the cheaters....
      what has happened since is interesting....

      first - they take forever (like the cases at Syracuse, Penn State, Miami, Cam Newton ...all of which began 4 to 6 years ago! - and especially the enormous academic fraud stuff at North Carolina/now headed into it's 6th year and cases like this one that just get swept under the carpet...) to actually come to any conclusion. Then despite massive cheating and really serious harm done, they impose minimal & somewhat soft & laughable penalties (like removing some wins that they later add back on)..
      then they claim the whole case is done and guys like Jim Boeheim go right back to work despite all the cheating.

      Nobody ever gets the severe penalties like Dave Bliss got...
      (BTW- Dave Bliss just got hired again as a college head coach - LINK)

      Then a study done confirms how terribly flawed the NCAA investigative and enforcement process is - and how biased it is yet nobody seems to care...

      A member of the NCAA infractions committee said in a March 2010 email to the group that the organization’s enforcement staff “botched” a key interview with former USC running backs coach Todd McNair.



      but the main thing is that over the past couple years - NOT ONE single new major investigation has been launched and they are seemingly no longer even looking into all the cheating going on - so I guess guys like Calipari can feel emboldened to keep cheating...

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      • #4
        I see that most people are appalled that Bliss got hired again to coach, and I understand their reasoning. But that doesn't even bother me as much as some of the decisions the NCAA does and doesn't make.
        First, Bliss is at an NAIA school which is completely outside of the jurisdiction of the NCAA. It is a private school, so clearly they can hire whoever they want. But Bliss did get one of the worst NCAA penalties (a 10-year "show cause" coaching ban) ever meted out by the NCAA and he has served his penalty and taken his punishment. So I guess if he complied with all the penalties and restrictions placed on him, why shouldn't he be able to take a coaching job now if some school offers it? I wouldn't hire him, but if a person pays for their "crimes" should they be allowed to make a living if they stay clean? Should everyone who ever committed a violation or crime never be allowed a second chance?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          ... if he complied with all the penalties and restrictions placed on him, why shouldn't he be able to take a coaching job now if some school offers it? ....
          enough people value the butts in the seats & the points on the scoreboard that guys like Kelvin Sampson, Bruce Pearl, Tim Floyd, & other cheaters, etc. produce...
          that they always get rehired...
          but if they get fired for losing like Royce Waltman or Billy Gillispie - then...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            I see that most people are appalled that Bliss got hired again to coach, and I understand their reasoning. But that doesn't even bother me as much as some of the decisions the NCAA does and doesn't make.
            First, Bliss is at an NAIA school which is completely outside of the jurisdiction of the NCAA. It is a private school, so clearly they can hire whoever they want. But Bliss did get one of the worst NCAA penalties (a 10-year "show cause" coaching ban) ever meted out by the NCAA and he has served his penalty and taken his punishment. So I guess if he complied with all the penalties and restrictions placed on him, why shouldn't he be able to take a coaching job now if some school offers it? I wouldn't hire him, but if a person pays for their "crimes" should they be allowed to make a living if they stay clean? Should everyone who ever committed a violation or crime never be allowed a second chance?
            The NAIA is a different organization. they don't follow the same rules as the NCAA

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