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  • Power Conferences want new transfer rule

    and it's pretty clear what they are after...they want to literally be able to grab at any time - a kid from a mid-major but have rules in place to help prevent them from ever losing a player...

    "College leaders consider new transfer rule
    The leaders of big-time college sports agree that transfer rules need to better accommodate players.

    The wealthiest college football conferences ??” Big 12, Big Ten, Atlantic Coast Conference, Pac-12, Southeastern Conference ??”
    are willing to work with all of Division I to come up with a solution, but they also want the power to make their own transfer rules
    if need be as part of an autonomy structure the NCAA is moving toward.

    That worries the schools outside those powerful leagues, concerned they'll be in danger of losing their best players to the Big Five.

    "I still haven't gotten a good answer as to why transfer rules have been included in the autonomy bucket,"
    said SMU Athletic Director Rick Hart, whose school plays in the American Athletic Conference, one of the other five leagues
    in the top tier of college football knows as FBS. "I'm hopeful that will remain something that is voted upon by the entire membership."


  • #2
    Here's another thing the power conference will start doing to give them a big recruiting advantage..
    They will begin offering the recruits they want guaranteed 4-year scholarships. I hope this blows up in their faces as they land kids who are duds...

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    • #3
      They'll just make up some other rule to bail them out of duds.... Probably figure out a way to make smaller schools pay for their tuition costs.

      Allowing duds to transfer out anywhere with no penalty will help ease the number of duds who stick around outside the bb program staying at the school.
      BUilding for the Future

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      • #4
        Big Ten now proposes making freshmen ineligible...

        "The Big Ten statement followed the Pac-12, which a few weeks earlier
        released its own recommendations for change. That included a proposal to
        make freshmen ineligible in football and basketball ..

        As far as freshmen ineligibility in football and basketball, Burke says, ???You
        have to look at that. If you look at the eligibility data, as I have, and the
        graduation rate data, as I have, and if you're really being truthful with the

        student athlete, maybe you have to seriously consider it.
        ???I think the data would support a year of readiness, then a full four years
        of eligibility after it. It's not because we're picking on those two sports, but
        because in those sports, athletes are coming into the (college academic)
        system at a much lower preparation level than the other sports. That has
        to get talked about."




        they believe it benefits everyone and can put more of their guys in the pros

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        • #5
          Frosh ineligible also helps NFL & NBA can help keep youngsters out of the pros one year longer.
          BUilding for the Future

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          • #6
            That is fantasy land.

            Without total conformance across the top, probably, 10 or so conferences, players would simply steer clear of those leagues because they ALL want to play right away.

            Players that would've gone OSU go to Cincy. Iowa to Iowa State....And on and on.

            The league would stop being competitive and money would dry up. Which is the reason it is fantasy land. ALL of this is about the money.

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            • #7
              The power conferences and top schools already make almost all of the money and the little guys like the Alcorn States, and party crashers to the Final Four like Wichita, Butler, etc...are already just scraping by......

              yet the BCS-boys still want more even if it destroys Division I as we know it...
              they want to eat the goose that lays the golden eggs.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                Here's another thing the power conference will start doing to give them a big recruiting advantage..
                They will begin offering the recruits they want guaranteed 4-year scholarships. I hope this blows up in their faces as they land kids who are duds......

                looks like this is occasionally blowing up in some schools' faces...

                here's an example - Northwestern thought they had a recruiting coup by locking in a highly rated kid named
                Johnnie Vassar
                to a full, guaranteed four year scholarship..

                But the warning signs were there as this kid had hopped around to several high schools & prep schools and been booted from La Lumiere- LINK LINK LINK LINK
                Then, no sooner does he enroll as a freshman at Northwestern - then he doesn't like his role, doesn't like his playing time, and doesn't like the coach...so he quits the team...
                And everyone thought he'd leave and Northwestern could use his scholarship to land someone else...

                BUT --- whoa....why would this kid wanna give up a 4-year full ride to Northwestern that easily -- so he returned in the fall and he's still there -
                ...simply hogging that scholarship and not willing to give it up but certainly not interested in playing ball for Head Coach Chris Collins!

                "Scholarships are four-year scholarships now," Collins said. "So as long as
                [Vassar] wants to be a student here, we made that commitment to him. So
                the ball is in his court...."



                so Northwestern was unable to use the scholarship for the kid they thought they had recruited for it..(they even tried to lure Peyton Allen to take the scholarship)
                "Collins had been recruiting class-of-2015 prospect Kipper Nichols (to replace Vassar)...
                ...However, Vassar chose to remain in school at Northwestern, meaning the Wildcats never did have a spot for Nichols."


                I guess you get what you bargain for...

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                • #9
                  Northwestern's Chris Collins has some insulting stuff to say about mid-majors, claiming they are holding players back academically just to prevent more of them from seeking to become grad-transfers that the bigger schools like Northwestern can poach. But then he complains about other teams poaching his players!

                  "Chris Collins on grad transfers:
                  Mid-majors hold players back academically


                  "So you know what’s happening now at all mid-major programs? They don’t let their kids go to summer school. They don’t let them get ahead. They won’t let ‘em graduate. Is that what upper level education is all about?"

                  "..... now guys are poaching guys in the middle of seasons. Can you imagine a time where Duke doesn’t have a point guard because Tyus Jones goes pro, and so a week before school, they’re on my campus and [saying], ‘okay, we need Bryant McIntosh.’ And a week later he leaves. I don’t think that’s a good thing for college sports...."


                  "So you know what’s happening now at all mid-major programs? They don’t let their kids go to summer school. They don’t let them get ahead. They won’t let ‘em graduate. Is that what upper level education is all about?"


                  BTW- He is being quite hypocritical, since Northwestern POACHED Bryant McIntosh from Indiana State!
                  LINK


                  BTW- Chris Collins...
                  Northwestern's latest APR (Academic Progress Rate) was 979..
                  that would have finished BEHIND multiple MVC teams!
                  Bradley - 985
                  SIU - 986
                  Northern Iowa - 995


                  On another measure...last year's Graduation Success Rate..
                  Northwestern 82 - Loyola 100, Drake 90, ISU 88, etc..

                  but I guess when you go 80 years without making the NCAA Tournament and now your best players are all gone - the mind plays tricks on you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    looks like this is occasionally blowing up in some schools' faces...

                    here's an example - Northwestern thought they had a recruiting coup by locking in a highly rated kid named
                    Johnnie Vassar
                    to a full, guaranteed four year scholarship..

                    But the warning signs were there as this kid had hopped around to several high schools & prep schools and been booted from La Lumiere- LINK LINK LINK LINK
                    Then, no sooner does he enroll as a freshman at Northwestern - then he doesn't like his role, doesn't like his playing time, and doesn't like the coach...so he quits the team...
                    And everyone thought he'd leave and Northwestern could use his scholarship to land someone else...

                    BUT --- whoa....why would this kid wanna give up a 4-year full ride to Northwestern that easily -- so he returned in the fall and he's still there -
                    ...simply hogging that scholarship and not willing to give it up but certainly not interested in playing ball for Head Coach Chris Collins!

                    "Scholarships are four-year scholarships now," Collins said. "So as long as
                    [Vassar] wants to be a student here, we made that commitment to him. So
                    the ball is in his court...."



                    so Northwestern was unable to use the scholarship for the kid they thought they had recruited for it..(they even tried to lure Peyton Allen to take the scholarship)
                    "Collins had been recruiting class-of-2015 prospect Kipper Nichols (to replace Vassar)...
                    ...However, Vassar chose to remain in school at Northwestern, meaning the Wildcats never did have a spot for Nichols."


                    I guess you get what you bargain for...
                    This is getting interesting....

                    Now highly touted recruit Johnnie Vassar is suing Northwestern Univ. for inhibiting his choice to transfer



                    something interesting as well....
                    some of the other players who also allegedly were harrassed and left were forced to sign NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS - meaning they cannot speak about what went on at Northwestern!
                    Northwestern has had a walk-on go onto become a leading scorer. It has also had a walk-on quit midway through a season because he didn't feel like he was part of the team. So is the often...



                    Northwestern also is still fighting appeals over this lawsuit ....
                    The National Labor Relations Board on Monday dismissed a petition by Northwestern football players who claimed they were university employees and wanted to unionize.

                    ...but no Big Ten school has as many lawsuit issues as Penn State and Illinois...it's just the world we live in nowadays...

                    Illinois announced Tuesday that it had reached accords with seven former women’s basketball players and with former head football coach Tim Beckman.

                    A civil trial set to begin Monday in a Pennsylvania courtroom will determine if Penn State should pay for a claim it mistreated a former assistant coach who provided key evidence used to convict child molester Jerry Sandusky.

                    In another embarrassing and potentially costly complaint against the state’s flagship university, a former student from South Korea alleges that University of Illinois administrators retaliat…

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                    • #11
                      The details of the Johnnie Vasser transfer lawsuit
                      Vassar Makes Ugly Allegations As fate would have it I suppose, Northwestern University-one of the world's finest academic institutions, has become the epicenter for the college athletes rights movement-like it or not. It has only been less than two years since several Northwestern football players and the National College Players Association [...]

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