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  • #76
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    maybe but if a program's revenues and attendance both double in just a 1-2 year span - someone's doing something right
    http://www.news-press.com/article/20...st-ticket-town
    It's called winning. A concept that we need to happen here and soon for Geno's sake. I still think he can make it happen but some have to go and he'll need to bring in kids that aren't mistakes. Haven't done a great job of that yet.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
      you post an opinion framed by your own biases and agenda.
      What's my agenda?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
        What's my agenda?
        I don't know, and don't care what other's opinions and agendas are, so I don't know why anyone would be hung up on what mine are. I am not the one making judgements on other fans. You suggested my opinions were based on agenda and bias, and I believe everyone's are. My agenda is pretty clear. Like most fans, I just want to see a winning program as we were promised the changes would bring. I have continued to support this program at a high level of involvement, loyalty, season tickets, and large donations. I want the program to succeed, and there is little signs that is happening. I think I predicted all this 3 years ago quite accurately. Maybe that is what some people are bothered by, that I was right.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          I don't know, and don't care what other's opinions and agendas are, so I don't know why anyone would be hung up on what mine are. I am not the one making judgements on other fans. You suggested my opinions were based on agenda and bias, and I believe everyone's are. My agenda is pretty clear. Like most fans, I just want to see a winning program as we were promised the changes would bring. I have continued to support this program at a high level of involvement, loyalty, season tickets, and large donations. I want the program to succeed, and there is little signs that is happening. I think I predicted all this 3 years ago quite accurately. Maybe that is what some people are bothered by, that I was right.
          It doesn't bother me that you were right. Maybe it bothers me that it is said so, so often. I mean, really, how many times in the past three years have you said posted something in the vein of, "as I correctly predicted.....", all about the same prediction. Dozens?

          The agenda comes in when certain people will only selectively laud players recruited by a certain coach, or selectively rip players recruited by a certain coach.

          The agenda comes in, as it did during the last regime, when losses are expounded on as major disasters, and wins are poo pooed as "the other team sucked." Only now, many people are doing the exact opposite of what they did four years ago. People who were in a panic back then are suddenly patient. People who were patient back then are suddenly panicked.

          And if anyone thinks that their side of "the issue" is perfectly logical and the other side is nuts, let me tell ya, from someone who sits firmly on the fence, both sides are corrupted. Just like politics.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
            It doesn't bother me that you were right. Maybe it bothers me that it is said so, so often...
            It obviously bothers some people. It's called concern. Most fans just stop coming, stop donating, stop renewing and move on with their lives. Not me. Sorry if that bothers some.

            If you saw a loved one walking straight toward a cliff and they didn't hear you after you yelled once or twice, would you just shut up, and be quiet so as not to ruffle anyone's feathers? Maybe we are already over the cliff. I hate to see what the attendance will be next year.
            We used to sell thousands of tickets for St. Louis. How many have we sold this year? From what has been reported, it is the minimum of something like 225, and most of those were bought by Bradley themselves. How pathetic is that?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              It obviously bothers some people. It's called concern. Most fans just stop coming, stop donating, stop renewing and move on with their lives. Not me. Sorry if that bothers some.

              If you saw a loved one walking straight toward a cliff and they didn't hear you after you yelled once or twice, would you just shut up, and be quiet so as not to ruffle anyone's feathers? Maybe we are already over the cliff. I hate to see what the attendance will be next year.
              We used to sell thousands of tickets for St. Louis. How many have we sold this year? From what has been reported, it is the minimum of something like 225, and most of those were bought by Bradley themselves. How pathetic is that?
              If my loved one wasn't hearing me I would certainly try something different.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                If my loved one wasn't hearing me I would certainly try something different.
                Thousands of former fans have done just that.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  Thousands of former fans have done just that.
                  Agreed. And they may, through their actions, end up saving their loved one.

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