Final: IUPUI 72 - Bradley 66

[Old Coach]

It's always been public before. Why not now?

Because police issues are always a matter of public record, and Jordan's offense was not a police/legal issue.

[bu fan 9]

It didn't matter before if it was a police issue.

[Old Coach]

It didn't matter before if it was a police issue.

Hmmm??Ś. I guess then I only remember hearing about the ones that ended up in the police blotter anyway.

[Da Coach]

Hmmm…. I guess then I only remember hearing about the ones that ended up in the police blotter anyway.

The Theron Wilson/Tyrone Cole-Scott incident was never a "police blotter" case. It was not an arrest and booking. It was a simple citation issued (like the speeding ticket he received). It did not appear on the police department's daily arrest & booking report. So what "police blotter" report would you have heard it from?

And remember this?
College athletes tweet some of the most outrageous and offensive stuff. Let me know if you need any examples. Yet, Taylor Brown's case of a single naughty disrespectful tweet drew such mock outrage from the Jim Les haters club, which included the PJ Star, that it lead to repeated coverage by the newspaper and eventually lead to significant discipline for a nothing issue, that violated no laws or even team rules.
Maybe you think that needs to be dragged out publicly and does not deserve the privacy treatment like cheating on a test, missing classes, flunking courses, or taking shots at a frat party does?

[bu fan 9]

What about Ray Brown?

[Bradleyfan1]

What about Ray Brown?

No crap! This still bothers me too!

[tornado]

despite claims to the contrary, Brown did not break any laws, was never arrested nor charged with anything - but he did violate a team rule and NCAA rule - he paid a severe price for it...

[Old Coach]

despite claims to the contrary, Brown did not break any laws, was never arrested nor charged with anything - but he did violate a team rule and NCAA rule - he paid a severe price for it..
....like a good, trusted employee being fired for failing a single random urine test at work - there are two sides to the issue but such cases are a sad reality.

I wouldn't say that Ray didn't break any laws. C'mon now...

Ray may not have been caught breaking any laws, but that's different.

[tornado]

Not trying to be difficult, I guess you can speculate but then I guess we can speculate about anyone and the laws they may have broken....
but tell me what law he broke...testing positive for cannabis, the only thing we can say with certainty that is a violation, is not illegal in any state
Ray Brown was never served with a warrant, arrested, and no cops ever even gave the guy a call or opened a case file, did they?
If it were illegal, then all those people - literally millions, of athletes, employees, and even hospitalized & ER patients who test positive would have cops breathing down their necks and prosecutors going after them - but they don't..
It may seem illogical or some technicality but it is as it is..

[Buesch N Chips]

I am all for local coverage being positive. It hasn't always been there, but I am glad that it is there now. I think it helps recruiting, could potentially sell tickets, and also is less stressful for the players.

[Old Coach]

Not trying to be difficult, I guess you can speculate but then I guess we can speculate about anyone and the laws they may have broken....
but tell me what law he broke...testing positive for cannabis, the only thing we can say with certainty that is a violation, is not illegal in any state
Ray Brown was never served with a warrant, arrested, and no cops ever even gave the guy a call or opened a case file, did they?
If it were illegal, then all those people - literally millions, of athletes, employees, and even hospitalized & ER patients who test positive would have cops breathing down their necks and prosecutors going after them - but they don't..
It may seem illogical or some technicality but it is as it is..

Oh I understand the semantics of the argument perfectly well. You're right, he was never arrested.

Surely someone fed him tainted brownies without his knowledge.

[tornado]

well - I know the argument can seem silly - but the law presumes innocence even if people who hear about the case presume guilt..

but I do deal somewhat in my profession with issues like this and I can tell you there are at least seven or eight different ways that a person can test positive and not have broken any law at all.
I will PM you because I really don't want to make this into a long debate

[BUBraves fan]

Frankly there's no need for anyone but Prosser and the coaching staff to know. Personally, I do know what happened, and it's nobody's business.

I tend to agree. A team violation is just that, and between the team and coaching staff. An NCAA violation or broken law is different. Compare it to a corporation: an employee violates a rule, it should be dealt with by the management, anything more - then an explanation needs to be given to the shareholders. My point was, if it's bad team chemistry, underage drinking, or academic problems those things should be dealt with before they escalate and have to become public knowledge. I do not think that just because the John Q Public or the reporters "demand" an explanation, they are always "entitled" to one.

I've had my two cents worth??Śnow out of pennies.

[bigjimmy]

Bradley is a private institution. Anything they promote or decide to comment on opens those things up for questions. They can simply choose not to answer or how much they'll answer. The press can either show righteous indignation, like the Journal has done in the past or treat the situation with kid gloves and not stir the pot. We'd all like to know what's going on with the situations with Prosser and Barnes but unless Bradley specifically comments on that specific situation it is supposed to be confidential. It's up to the Journal to decide how they want to pursue it.

[Da Coach]

IUPUI lost tonight at home to Nicholls State 62-56 to drop to 2-9 against D1 teams (they also have 2 wins against NAIA Division II schools)-

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400501605