4 MVC teams playing Wednesday Nov. 20

[Da Coach]

4 MVC teams playing non-conference games tonight (Wed. Nov. 20)-

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20131120&confId=18

[tornado]

Should be Missouri State easy over Grambling
Wichita going on the road for the first time but should beat winless Tulsa
ISU should handle Manhattan, if they're not still celebrating their win at Northwestern
Valpo at Evansville should be interesting - relatively even matchup..
Valley has a chance to go 4-0

[cpacmel]

ISU should handle Manhattan, if they're not still celebrating their win at Northwestern

Much like Drexel, I don't think you know much about Manhattan.

I will help you out:

http://www.gojaspers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=52459&SPID=5439&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=12500&ATCLID=209257808

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php

Illinois State is 3 point underdogs at home.

[tornado]

you might be surprised but I do know about Manhattan and have posted more about them here than everyone else put together...

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23133&highlight=manhattan

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=282210&highlight=manhattan#post282210

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=283768&postcount=7

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=283633&postcount=14

but they have been far from impressive and world-beaters thus far...

-They were one of the only three teams in history to have lost a game to one of the Bahamian teams..
-They played one public exhibition against a team named Nyack - proving nothing
-they squeaked out an OT win against LaSalle (2-2 against a weak schedule)
-the beat Columbia (1-2 with only win over a bad UMES) by ONE point
-then they lost at home to George Washington (might be good but have only beat Radford, Maine, & Delaware St.)
...so I judge ISU should beat them - you should be happy not angry...

[tornado]

ouch - Northwestern is bouncing back from their embarrassing loss to ISU by absolutely annihilating UIC at UIC..

Currently Northwestern 39 - UIC 14 near halftime....

[Da Coach]

4 MVC teams playing non-conference games tonight (Wed. Nov. 20)-

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreb...1120&confId=18

Missouri State is looking strong- they annihilate Grambling State 97-67, and they get a lot of contributions off their bench-

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400499982

Wichita State clobbering Tulsa, at Tulsa, Illinois State getting beat at home, and Evansville scored 55 points in the first half to take a huge lead against Valparaiso-

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20131120&confId=18

[tornado]

Final scores of MVC & other local games..

Wichita State 77 - Tulsa 54 - Van Vleet is good, why did we not go hard after this guy?

Manhattan 79 - ISU 70 - ISU gets outrebounded 40-27, 59 fouls called & 79 FT's shot, 21 turnovers for both teams

Missouri State 97 - Grambling 67 - MSU hit 60% of their shots

Evansville 100 - Valparaiso 92 - a career night for Alec Peters 10-15 & 7-11 from the arc & 30 points! Why did we not recruit this kid?
Evansville's DJ Balentine 32 pts, Mockevicius 2 pts, zero reb (remember this guy?)

Purdue beats EIU 83-55
Northwestern 93 - UIC 58 and it wasn't even that close -

[lefty]

Final scores of MVC & other local games..

Wichita State 77 - Tulsa 54 - Van Vleet is good, why did we not go hard after this guy?

Manhattan 79 - ISU 70 - ISU gets outrebounded 40-27, 59 fouls called & 79 FT's shot, 21 turnovers for both teams

Missouri State 97 - Grambling 67 - MSU hit 60% of their shots

Evansville 100 - Valparaiso 92 - a career night for Alec Peters 10-15 & 7-11 from the arc & 30 points! Why did we not recruit this kid?
Evansville's DJ Balentine 32 pts, Mockevicius 2 pts, zero reb (remember this guy?)

Purdue beats EIU 83-55
Northwestern 93 - UIC 58 and it wasn't even that close -

do you know that we didn't recruit Peters? I actually don't remember Peters getting that many D-1 offers really

[Da Coach]

do you know that we didn't recruit Peters? I actually don't remember Peters getting that many D-1 offers really

I have heard from a highly reliable source that Bradley did not offer Alec Peters, and there is no recruiting source I know of that mentions Bradley recruiting him.

And actually, Alec Peters had numerous D1 offers (over 20), and dozens more schools that recruited but did not offer.

Rivals lists these offers:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Alec-Peters-142859

Boston College
Butler
Drake
Wisconsin-Green Bay
Illinois State
IPFW
Loyola Chicago
Wis. Milwaukee
Rice
Saint Louis
San Diego State
Southern Illinois
Illinois-Chicago
Utah
Valparaiso
Western Michigan


Another usually reliable source that gets it's info from AAU coaches (Peoria Irish) lists several additional offers:

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=1038

South Dakota State
IPFW
UIC
IUPUI
Albany
UW-Greenbay
UW-Milwaukee
Illinois State
Loyola
Valpo
Tulane
Drake
St. Louis
Rice
Boston College
Southern Illinois
St. Bonaventure
Western Michigan
Butler
Air Force
Utah
Washington State


His final three were Saint Louis, Boston College, and Valpo-

http://saintlouis.scout.com/a.z?s=437&p=2&c=1202398&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fsaintlouis.scout.com%2f2%2f1202398.html

[lefty]

I have heard from a highly reliable source that Bradley did not offer Alec Peters, and there is no recruiting source I know of that mentions Bradley recruiting him.

And actually, Alec Peters had numerous D1 offers (over 20), and dozens more schools that recruited but did not offer.

Rivals lists these offers:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Alec-Peters-142859

Boston College
Butler
Drake
Wisconsin-Green Bay
Illinois State
IPFW
Loyola Chicago
Wis. Milwaukee
Rice
Saint Louis
San Diego State
Southern Illinois
Illinois-Chicago
Utah
Valparaiso
Western Michigan


Another usually reliable source that gets it's info from AAU coaches (Peoria Irish) lists several additional offers:

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=1038

South Dakota State
IPFW
UIC
IUPUI
Albany
UW-Greenbay
UW-Milwaukee
Illinois State
Loyola
Valpo
Tulane
Drake
St. Louis
Rice
Boston College
Southern Illinois
St. Bonaventure
Western Michigan
Butler
Air Force
Utah
Washington State


His final three were Saint Louis, Boston College, and Valpo-
http://saintlouis.scout.com/a.z?s=43...2f1202398.html

OTOB someone said he wasn't interested in BU.....lots of MVC teams on there...maybe he didn't want to play in the Valley....I don't know...

[tornado]

I believe there were reasons and some were noted elsewhere even on this board - but BU did not pursue Peters at all

He is currently in the early part of his freshman season averaging 14.8 ppg...I know that's no guarantee it'll continue, but...

Even our best scorers (Hawkins 14.6 ppg as a frosh) in the past 30-35 years did not average that much as freshman..

[lefty]

I believe there were reasons and some were noted elsewhere even on this board - but BU did not pursue Peters at all

He is currently in the early part of his freshman season averaging 14.8 ppg...I know that's no guarantee it'll continue, but...

Even our BEST scorers (Hawkins 14.6 ppg as a frosh) in the past 30-35 years did not average that much as freshman..

and no guarantee he would have come here either....that's how recruiting goes

[tornado]

True - but the odds are a bit better if you do recruit him than if you don't

BTW - one other kid who Bradley was after - Jared Brownridge - is also doing pretty well - he's averaging 20.3 ppg

[Da Coach]

OTOB someone said he wasn't interested in BU.....lots of MVC teams on there...maybe he didn't want to play in the Valley....I don't know...

I have heard differently, that he would have liked to have been recruited by Bradley. Maybe someone who knows the family can clarify this. Supposedly, one of the reasons he chose Valpo over other offers was proximity and opportunity to play right away.

[mrcoachdude]

he was not recruited by bu or illini...