Red-White Scrimmage

[tornado]

btw - the front row pictured on the last page in this thread - is a premium seating row of 50 seats - all of which are completely sold out for every game at RC to premium season ticket holders who occupy them for every event at RC...many of whom make it to every women's game...but last night only four of those seats were occupied by the ticket holders - all the rest were filled later when all the recruits and visitors were escorted down there to enjoy the great seating.
Also noted by both Da Coach and I was that fewer than a dozen or two kids were there - pretty much just the Sahr kids and the families of a couple of the coaches...and a few fans...
again, this even used to have hundreds of families with kids ages 2 to teen - the late start has killed that off completely...
Try as the spinmeisters might - it was NOT as good crowd... Bring back the old format - men's scrimmage as a stand-alone event starting way earlier than 9PM -
make it 6PM for discounted pizza or hot dogs - something you can walk around with or head to your seats - then a good game at 7PM without the contrived skills contest..
and how about bringing back the DUNK CONTEST - don't tell me fans and players alike wouldn't love it..

[Da Coach]

The end zone sections were completely empty except for the band. The sideline sections were no more than 1/3 filled. That comes to around 800 fans, just what I counted. I am not sure why you want to squabble about 2 people's counts/estimates that differ by only 100 fans.

For the record- last year's Red-White attendance was reported to be 1,700 (which IMO is more than were actually there, too), and the 2011 Red-White was reported to be 1,800. So regardless of who you believe, or whatever your agenda is, the attendance was significantly down, despite all the promotions, multiple mass email reminders, the Chet Walker appearance, the timing of the event in the midst of homecoming with hundreds of alumni in town, and hundreds of tickets given away free to students. I can assure you the Bradley people were very disappointed in the turnout.

[BUBeam]

Guys, As I said Im not looking to argue, and whatever the attendance figure was does not bug me. I was simply wondering how DR reported "before a crowd of 1302" and you 2 counted anywhere from 6-800 at various times of the event. Thats it

I have no "agenda", Im not trolling. Furthermore there is no denying that the attendance figure, whatever it was , is down. I don't know why, because as you said there was plenty of promotion etc.

[Da Coach]

This decline and the decline in attendance at games (and I have heard season ticket sales this year dropped again) has to be concerning to all BU fans, especially since, by all the accounts we are reading, the team is getting better each year, is much better and more athletic this year, and adding "impact players" and drawing highly rated recruits to our games. What is the problem? What does the administration need to do to stop losing fans? Even in bad years in the past, there has been far better fan support than we are seeing now.

[BUBeam]

As I said, I have no answers. What do think the administration needs to do to attract more fans? What can the administration do? Who's responsibility is it?

[Buesch N Chips]

1. Regardless of what the actual attendance was, it is hard to compare anything at RC to anything at the Fieldhouse or Civic Center. It's clear the BU nation doesn't really want to go to the RC, so you need to compare apples to apples. A more relevant comparison might be the ratio of regular season game to scrimmage at the RC and when we were at the Fieldhouse. I have no idea what those numbers are, and really don't care.

2. Recruits at games don't impress me. Commitments do.

3. Was Pross the same old Pross or is he better?

[lightsout]

3. Was Pross the same old Pross or is he better?

Well he did have a new ear ring in and a new hairdo.... I think we will be seeing plenty of Xzavier Taylor. As others have already said his offensive game is not were it needs to be yet but he is very active on the boards and on defense. I for one am very excited to see what XT can do over four years at BU!

[Da Coach]

Prosser looked the same to me, which will not satisfy most Bradley fans. He is a 5th year senior, and he needs to be more of a factor. I'd like to see him step back and make some mid range jumpers. I saw him do that in high school, and he did it very well. But I could count the number of times he's done it at Bradley on one hand. His scoring and rebounding numbers dropped off last year, and I think we'd all like to see them go back up at least to where he was 2 years ago, maybe even more.

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19333&SPID=1498&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=204799589&Q_SEASON=2013

[Buesch N Chips]

Prosser looked the same to me, which will not satisfy most Bradley fans. He is a 5th year senior, and he needs to be more of a factor. I'd like to see him step back and make some mid range jumpers. I saw him do that in high school, and he did it very well. But I could count the number of times he's done it at Bradley on one hand. His scoring and rebounding numbers dropped off last year, and I think we'd all like to see them go back up at least to where he was 2 years ago, maybe even more.
http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArt...&Q_SEASON=2013

But the big question is, does he still drink milk? That's the most important thing to know.

[mrcoachdude]

Well he did have a new ear ring in and a new hairdo.... I think we will be seeing plenty of Xzavier Taylor. As others have already said his offensive game is not were it needs to be yet but he is very active on the boards and on defense. I for one am very excited to see what XT can do over four years at BU!

Prosser will have a better year...I thought he looked better and the addition of all the new bigs will help him...he doesn't need to be all conference...just solid and I believe he will be that..

I agree with you on XT...I was impressed with him...what an athlete! if he has a love for the game and a solid work ethic...BU fans will love this guy...

[wizard1]

Red-White Scrimmage

The womens game was awful and borrrrring! By now, BU should clearly understand a couple of things regarding this event.
FIRST, it should be mens basketball only---stop trying to force feed womens BB on fans. and---drop the stupid games and loooooong introductions!
SECONDLY, change the start time. The event should start at 6:30 or 7:00 promptly so kids can come and people would have time to get a pizza or dinner after the event. A 9:30 or 10:00 start is terrible!
Also, serve beer in the concession stands.
Wiz

[tornado]

Back to the relevant...

here's the BUBraves story and the box score...

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=209287359

http://www.bradleybraves.com/pdf9/2555617.pdf?ATCLID=209287359&SPSID=25965&SPID=1498&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=3400

a couple observations after seeing the stats in the box score....

-Jordan Swopshire definitely made two long jumpers - must have been credited with a 2-pointer on one of them because the box score says he was 1-2 from 3-pt

-Nate Wells clearly blocked at least one shot and even drew some "ooohs" from the crowd on that flurry - and his tall presence in the middle did alter a few others - especially a pair of layup attempts back-to-back by Ka'Darryl - and yet Nate is credited in the box score with zero blocks.
Omari was credited with 2-4 from 3-pt range but they did a 3-pt contest and on completely unguarded and unhurried 3-pointers - he looked bad and knocked down only one of five.

-Auston Barnes does have a nice looking stroke but seemed a bit timid and didn't get into the offense much..

-according to the "official stat page- Xzavier Taylor had 1 offensive rebound and three defensive rebounds but then is credited with SIX rebounds total.
And - if you add the totals of offensive rebounds, you get 12 but the box score says 14,
and if you add the defensive rebounds you get 25, yet the box score says 29!

Even the individual scoring totals add up to 82 - yet the total in the box score is 84.
The individual assists add to 18, yet the sum says 19.. so all in all much of these stats are not reliable...

BUT - the bigget goof is that the shooting stats -- just do the math using the individual shooting figures
and you get 31-73 - and yet they say 31-63, probably because of some faulty addition....
and then cite our really fine 49.2% shooting from the field - when in fact we really shot just 42.4%

the same holds true with the women's box score - nothing adds up right - individual scoring is 18 but the box score says 21,
shooting adds to 6-27 but their total is 7-29, FT's add to 5-8 but they get 6-9
steals add to 6 but the they got 7, even the simple turnover count is FIVE but they came up with six, and fouls add to 3 but they get 4.

The newspaper seems to have gone with all the incorrect stats they were handed without doing any checking...
..so given all this gotta wonder about the attendance figure...

[bigjimmy]

good height - and has BU ever had a player from Hillsboro before?

That would be Hall of Famer Buzz Ott, who played here in the early 50's. His son Bill, who owns Illini Golf in Peoria, is also in the Hall of Fame with the 84-85 golf team. Probably not a lot of father/son combinations in the Hall.

[tornado]

here's an example of bad planning & a bad screw-up....
Memphis hosts their Memphis Madness and for years & years it has always been an open, FREE event - anyone can come as their arena was big enough to handle the expected throng - but...
then this year they went to a completely new system - ticketed fans only were allowed in and no tickets were available at the door - you had to already be ticketed via one of the sponsors of the event or by picking one up in advance of the event.
- and practically nobody knew that....so gobs of people waited in line only to be told to take a hike - no tickets available...

so.. long lines of people showed up and were angry that they could not get in...

http://www.wmctv.com/story/23732203/fans-cry-foul-on-memphis-madness-ticketing-process

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/oct/17/thursdays-memphis-madness-ticket-allotment-scooped/

http://www.wmctv.com/story/23718988/memphis-madness-ticket-system-disappoints-basketball-fans

[tornado]

... Devin Gage (2016 recruit from Chicago Curie HS) ...to attend tonight.

it is being reported out of Chicago that Bradley has tendered an offer to 6-1 sophomore (2016) PG/SG Devin Gage!