OT- Football- Breaking scandal at Oklahoma State

[Da Coach]

Sports Illustrated published the first of a 5-part story on corruption found at Oklahoma State University in their football program. It documents regular cash payments to players going back as far as 2001, fake jobs, academic fraud, permissable recreational drug use, and hiring "hostesses" who had sex with recruits to entice them to commit to OSU. Some players earned as much as $25,000 a year.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/other-colleges/20130910-si-oklahoma-state-assistants-paid-players-hostesses-had-sex-with-recruits.ece

http://deadspin.com/si-ok-state-hostesses-providing-sex-to-football-recr-1270065692

A lot of people could be in trouble by the time all 5 parts of this in-depth investigation are revealed, since there have been dozens of coaches and assistants who have worked for the Oklahoma State football program over this time. They have been a pretty mediocre program for most of this time period, despite this amount of cheating. And this kind of activity likely is not confined just to Oklahoma State.

One interesting Illinois connection- Illini head coach Tim Beckman was a defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State for 2 seasons (2007 & 2008 ). Now that these allegations have come out, Beckman says he is "shocked" to hear about them, and he "was unaware of any illegal activity in my short time there" at Oklahoma State.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-tim-beckman-oklahoma-state-20130910,0,2011033.story

[tornado]

The will be people who will use this to make the case that it'll all go away if they are just allowed to start PAYING the athletes...

LOL - IMO, it'll get even worse and grow into bidding wars like the NY Yankees buying up the top priced jocks - then the jocks will have to boost performance and guess how they'll do it....
same way steroid boosted Roger Clemens, Jose Canseco, Alex Rodriguez, & Jason Giambi did...

[Da Coach]

More allegations of cheating and cash payments to college football players- this time in the SEC-

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-sec-ncaa-rules-violation-20130911,0,1824790.story

[bradleyfan124]

There cant be any truth to these allegations. I mean afterall the coaches say they are.....SHOCKED....so it cant be true

[tornado]

among many other details they tell the story of one Oklahoma State player who police found large amounts of dope, steroids, prescription drugs, an electronic scale that drug dealers use, and large amounts of cash...

Hmm..not exactly what I had in my apartment at college ....
wouldn't you think that this finding would be enough for the football coach, the school, the conference or maybe the NCAA to launch an investigation?
These were proven findings by the police not rumors.

Oh, btw - the player was suspended until he plead guilty to marijuana & drug dealing charges then was reinstated to the team!
What about the banned/illegal steroids (stanozolol) that were confiscated from the guy's possession?

Two things jump out at me in this latest revelation of cheating at the BCS level in college sports...

FIRST - how massive & widespread it is, and yet how little the NCAA seemed to care.
BUT - should there be a D-III coach who buys a bottle of Tylenol for an athlete, or should there be a kid
who gets a few bucks from a summer job, or should there be some kid at SEMO who plays even one game
when he should have been ineligible - then NCAA will send their entire enforcement staff on a private jet and camp out to dig through every record until they find some tiny detail to nail the school with sanctions.

SECOND - that, as always, it took a bit of independent detective work by a columnist/blogger
(and not anyone from NCAA or the school/conference) but that all this evidence was easy to find
and much of it right there on public display like these police findings - that anyone who wanted could have
known massive cheating was going on.
How many times have we seen this - with Reggie Bush' impermissible benefits at USC,
and OJ Mayo's cash payoffs, and Derrick Rose's fraudulent tests that when given the chance -
NCAA cleared him on it, and the cheating Bruce Pearl and Kelvin Sampson did and the many,
many other scandals recently.

All of this was completely ignored by NCAA and only when independent reporters saw and wrote about the cheating
- then and ONLY then did NCAA finally (took 5+ years in the Reggie Bush case) show the least bit of interest.


My conclusion can only be that if they just open their eyes and look - that this kind of cheating going on at Oklahoma State - is going on everywhere at the BCS level - and they have gotten away with it so easily and so often they don't appear to even make an effort to cover their tracks any more.

Enforcement of violations by NCAA is a complete joke.

[tornado]

NCAA investigation of Oklahoma State ...
"could take years to complete...
...even if the NCAA finds no wrongdoing, it'll take time. Maybe lots of time..
..They're just interested in being cautious and deliberate and stringing this thing out.."

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Fallout_of_Dirty_Game_NCAA_probe_of_OSU_could_take/20130915_93_A1_Oklaho171109?subj=2

[tornado]

another Tennessee player (ex-player) steps forward and admits he took money to play at Tennessee...but NCAA doesn't seem to care as they have most of their enforcement staff on campus at SEMO checking to see if one of their volleyball players got their car washed on campus using a university hose...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2013/football/ncaa/wires/09/20/2060.ap.fbc.tennessee.foster.0193/

[tornado]

Sports Illustrated published the first of a 5-part story on corruption found at Oklahoma State University in their football program. It documents regular cash payments to players going back as far as 2001, fake jobs, academic fraud, permissable recreational drug use, and hiring "hostesses" who had sex with recruits to entice them to commit to OSU. Some players earned as much as $25,000 a year.....

as always - the NCAA is a joke...

they have handed down their ruling & penalties on this vast cheating & drug scandal at Oklahoma State football...

they agreed pretty much with the Sports Illustrated findings of multiple gross violations, perks (including special girlie favors for the recruits & players), impermissible benefits, and broad drug use while failing to follow proper drug monitoring policy...

BUT - they give Oklahoma State the whopping penalty of little more than one year probation and the requirement that they must disband their campus "escort service" - their equivalent of dates for hire to lure & 'please' the prospective recruits...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12755372/oklahoma-state-cowboys-put-probation-one-year-fined-ncaa

[Tulsa Brave]

This doesn't sound like they "agreed pretty much with the Sports Illustrated findings"...


The NCAA determined that many of the Sports Illustrated allegations were unfounded after reviewing more than 50,000 emails and other documents and conducting close to 90 interviews of current and former players, coaches, staffers and boosters.

"Some salacious stuff was out there ... a lot of unsubstantiated stuff out there that was not found," Christopher said. "And it was not for a lack of looking. ... We have full confidence in what came out of this."

[tornado]

that is not how I'd view what happened...although the AP writer made a similar statement about the findings of the SI writer...
but what he's saying is that the people who spoke to Sports Illustrated declined to repeat their testimony to or talk to the NCAA investigators..

So NCAA found exactly what SI did but they didn't get all the same testimony so they chose NOT to believe some of the specific violations.

Heck - Dick Versace declined to talk to NCAA investigators - but as well all know, they choose to believe what they WANT to believe

anyway..Sports Illustrated alleged
-drug use
-failed drug testing policies
-impermissible benefits
-girlie escort service providing favors for recruits & athletes
-academic violations & fraud
-and other various violations

In the end, NCAA says they found...
-drug use
-failed drug testing policies
-impermissible benefits
-girlie escort service providing favors for recruits & athletes
-academic violations & fraud
-and other various violations

Basically, you'd be hard pressed to find anything Sports Illustrated alleged that did NOT happen

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/4/24/8489799/ncaa-oklahoma-state-violations-si

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/4/24/8489799/ncaa-oklahoma-state-violations-si/in/4477141

So in the end NCAA penalized Oklahoma for pretty much exactly what SI said they did -
This is quite reminiscent of how NCAA totally ignored all the violations at USC/Reggie Bush, and USC/OJ Mayo, and UNC/fake classes, etc...
and only became interested and forced to act when sports writers & bloggers presented the proof in expose' articles.

[AZ BU Fan]

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