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**tornado** · 06-29-2013, 03:24 PM

BTW - the Canadian team went 1-2 in pool play - two ISU guys are on the team - Kaza Keane & Mikyle McIntosh ..

Kaza Keane averages in 3 games - 2 ppg, 1 rpg, 1 apg
McIntosh averages - in 3 games - 0.6 ppg, 2.3 rpg

**tornado** · 06-29-2013, 09:06 PM

USA finished the game on a tremendous run and won 115-47 -
wow our USA teams routinely dominate like this all the way up to the Olympic-level teams then suddenly the other nations catch up..

**tornado** · 07-01-2013, 04:44 PM

USA clobbers Brazil in the first game of the knockout stage..91-66
USA advances towards the finals... 11 players played 13-21 minutes

Canada loses to Lithuania and drops to the consolation (lower) bracket
Keane 2 pts, McIntosh scoreless

**tornado** · 07-03-2013, 08:15 AM

Serbia U19's, who are 5-0 and playing extremely well gets to play the US today - US are also 5-0

BTW - high schooler Jahlil Okafor continues his tremendous shooting - thus far hitting 31-41 from the field for 76%

Croatia, with ex-BU recruit Mislav Brzoja (who played very little as a freshman at Villanova), are still in the hunt at
Brzoja is having a decent tourney averaging 17 ppg & 8.4 rpg

ISU's Kaza Keane had a good game in a big blowout win over Iran (95-57) -
9 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asst..
ISU freshman Mikyle McIntosh with 2 pts, 2 rebs

**tornado** · 07-03-2013, 04:22 PM

USA beats Serbia but it was closer than USA had been played at any time thus far..
71-62 with Chicago Whitney Young's Jahlil Okafor getting 16 pts in just 15 minutes off the bench..
This game was within 3-4 points much of the fourth quarter - and the US team ended up with only 6 total assists - showing maybe a bit of selfishness...
The US team took 18 more shot attempts, grabbed 19 more rebounds, and had considerably more steals & blocks and fewer turnovers...so on paper this should have been an easy win - but Serbia played good team ball and hung close...

**tornado** · 07-06-2013, 08:23 AM

Team USA clobbers Canada 109-67
Okafor again had 12/8 with 5-5 from the field
every US player scored, and it was 84-50 after 3 quarters..

Kaza Keane was 1-6, 2 pts, 5 turnovers
Mikyle McIntosh 0-5, scoreless, 4 turnovers

**tornado** · 07-06-2013, 05:12 PM

USA wins again - USA 100 - Lithuania 60 ...so USA advances to the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME Sunday evening...
Okafor led with 16 pts off the bench...

in the Final - they will face Serbia, who won the other semi-final over Australia 63-58.

USA played Serbia once already, on Wednesday, and it was their toughest, closest game yet...so it should be a good game..

http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/u19/13_mu19_game_06_box.html

Canada will play Sunday for 5th/6th place vs. Spain after a 110-100 win over China today - the two ISU guys combined for 6 pts, 3 rebs..
In this game vs. China, Canadian stud Tyler McIntyre scored 42 pts, and had 8 rebs

**tornado** · 07-07-2013, 05:07 PM

USA beats Serbia 82-68 to win the U19 World Championship
Serbia actually played a good game and hit 9-20 from 3-pt, but US dominated most aspects..

Canada drops to 6th with loss to Spain - ISU guys Keane & McIntosh 4 pts & 3 pts respectively
Trey Lyles had 25 pts & 17 rebs

In the 1st round of the World University Games...the USA beat United Arab Emirates 140-46
yup - that score is right - the US won by a 94 point margin...ten US players had 9 pts or more..and five players had 15 or more..
Doug McDermott had 15 pts, and as a team - we outrebounded the Arabs 70 to 23 -
Canada beat Sweden 84-69, Indiana State's Manny AROP was scoreless.

**tornado** · 07-11-2013, 08:59 PM

Uh oh...our Team USA at the World University Games got stunned by Australia..
93-84...getting outshot, out rebounded, the aussies had better ball handling, fewer TO, more asst, just played an all-around better game..

McDermott had 22 but nobody else had a very good game...
Starter Luke Hancock had just one basket and the Hoosiers' Yogi Ferrell jacked up 16 shots and hit only four including just 1-6 from the arc.
The other two Big Ten guys Will Sheehey & Adrien Payne were both just 1-4 also

**tornado** · 07-12-2013, 07:55 AM

now the USA is imploding and they lose again -- this time to Canada 94-85

That means the USA will enter the final knockout round stuck in 3rd place in their own pool behind Canada & Australia..

but only the top two teams in each pool go into an 8-team bracket for 1st thru 8th place..
so the best the US can do is 9th place....extremely disappointing....

**tornado** · 07-12-2013, 11:08 AM

The two IU Hoosier players on the team Sheehey & Ferrell again had very disappointing games..
they combined for 2-11 each hitting only one basket - and McDermott also had a disappointing game - hitting only 6 of his game high 18 shot attempts...

The overall problem with this team was their inability to make shots...
overall they shot just a little better than 35% from 3-pt and against the better teams in their pool (Canada & Australia) they hit only 30-72 against the Aussies and 29-72 against Canada for a total shooting pct in those key games of an awful 40% when we supposedly have such an inside dominance!!

Note that 32 of our 72 shots against Canada came from beyond the arc as did 25 of 72 against Australia..
obviously we must have felt that we were reduced to the inferior team inside and felt the need to jack a ton of long shots -

Even in the game against Czech that we dominated everywhere oin the court (won 96-53) we jacked up 36 3-pt attempts!!!! And 39 attampts against United Arab Emirates (a 140-46 win!!)

What the hey - this is our game, we invented it - we have produced over the decaded 99% of all the dominating inside players - from Bill Russell to Dave Cowens to Shaq to Dwight Howard - so what gives??
Who selected and is coaching this team that they decided to turn us into a clone of the weaker teams who hope to just get hot and beat you from outside??
WHY THE HEY didn't John Beilein bring Mitch McGary?? He'd have eaten those Aussies & Canadians alive!!!!

Sorry - maybe McKillop (Davidson), and assistants Beilein & Martin are good coaches but international play is different - you gotta beat them to death inside as well as have outside shooters.
If McDermott is your best inside player - then it costs you by playing him away from the bucket & taking half his shots from long range...
We were fortunate to win those games because some of the teams are downright awful (UAE & Czech) ..but we didn't have the ability to beat anyone with any talent!!

And if your point guard (Yogi Ferrell) goes 8-32 (only 25%) from 3-pt - and your other wings Graham+Kilpatrick+White go a combined 12-55 (21.8% !!) from 3-pt -
And one of the pure shooting guards - Tyler Haws from BYU - took 113 3-pt attmpts this past season yet never made a single one in the World University Games thus far!!!
then these coaches should have given ISU's Tyler Brown or UNI's Marc Sonnen a call!!
Even Manny Arop - the only MVC player in the games, playing for Canada - he was perfect (1.000) from 3-pt range!!!

I have noted this before - so sorry if redundant...
at every level of play from biddy ball, thru high school, U16, U18, U19, U20 -- whatever - we KILL them anywhere - anytime..

BradleyFans.com Forums

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=281992#post281992

but as soon as we get to the adult level (22 y/o and up) then we lose ground royally....we pick our teams poorly and we lose unless we send a "Dream Team" of NBA All Stars..
I believe it's mostly the same selection & coaching problems that cost us our Olympic Gold Medal in 1988 with Hersey Hawkins. We selected the players so poorly that when Hersey got injured,
then we were left with virtually no outside shooters and got beat by far inferior players who could hit a jumper.
All TIME great shooters such as Steve Kerr and BIG bodies such as Will Perdue, Lionel Simmons & Derrick Coleman were never even considered for the team because
they we "not athletic or versatile enough to play several positions" - John Thompson was so cocky & sure of his "athletes" who would beat anyone.
Even taking Shaq who was a high school phenom scoring 30 ppg and grabbing 25 rpg - might have helped....
Same stuff going on now....

**tornado** · 07-13-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by tornado

And if your point guard (Yogi Ferrell)....

Ferrell is a good college PG but again and again he's gonna have bad games when facing bigger opponents...

IU had a great season and was a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament but...
if there was a criticism of Tom Crean - it's that he seems to overly love very small guards - actually, by Big Ten standards, TINY GUARDS...
like Ferrell, Hulls, even Roth....Crean was foolish to keep Abell on the bench so much - foolish...
They have decent offensive skills but get absolutely schooled when trying to play defense...

Practically everyone who saw the Hoosiers lose to Syracuse in the NCAA Tourney noted their small guards simply could not play against the bigger guards Syracuse had.

Twilight Zone: Syracuse's 2-3 Perplexes Indiana, Crean Schooled by Boeheim

http://orangefizz.net/2013/03/twilight-zone-syracuses-2-3-perplexes-indiana-crean-schooled-by-boeheim/

Tom Crean's Hoosiers woefully under-prepared for SU's zone, Orange headed to Elite 8.

Page not found - Indianapolis Business Journal

http://www.ibj.com/the-score-2013-07-01-ius-crean-praised-and-criticized-following-nba-draft/PARAMS/post/42231

**tornado** · 07-14-2013, 09:42 AM

USA wins their Sunday game 91-51 over Norway so now the USA has guaranteed we will finish no lower than 12th. but possibly as high as 9th place..

Yogi Ferrel still played a lot of minutes as PG, hit only 2-8, and 1-5 from long range. (in 6 games 33% overall and 25% from the arc)
The starting PG spot was little known Colorado PG Spencer Dinwiddie (51% overall and 44% from the arc) who played far better but not as many minutes - hitting 4-5, 1-2 from long range, and has eight assists to zero turnovers...plus three steals.

McDermott was 2-6, 10 pts, 5 rebs
The US hit only 16-30 FT attempts

http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/worlduniversity/13_mwug_game_06_box.html

**thirdkill** · 07-14-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by tornado View Post

USA wins their Sunday game 91-51 over Norway so now the USA has guaranteed we will finish no lower than 12th. but possibly as high as 9th place..

Yogi Ferrel still played a lot of minutes as PG, hit only 2-8, and 1-5 from long range. (in 6 games 33% overall and 25% from the arc)
The starting PG spot was little known Colorado PG Spencer Dinwiddie (51% overall and 44% from the arc) who played far better but not as many minutes - hitting 4-5, 1-2 from long range, and has eight assists to zero turnovers...plus three steals.

McDermott was 2-6, 10 pts, 5 rebs
The US hit only 16-30 FT attempts

http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/wo...me_06_box.html

It's interesting for me to read that Dinwiddie isn't well known outside of the West. Here in Colorado, he's considered a star and a likely lottery pick next season. Point guards with his size (6"6") and quickness combination are rare. I had a feeling that he wasn't that highly regarded outside of the PAC 12.

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