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Reynolds:Bradley basketball 7 wins and CIT better...
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tornado
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7 wins better?? I don't get it, what am I missing??
Our record at the end of the regular season was 16-16 and at the end of the CIT it was 18-17 - how is that only 7 wins better than a 7-25 season?
It's nice to see the stark difference in the reporting-
where they looked for any negative thing before to report - at least now I like how nothing negative gets mentioned & now they look for the positive.
Our record at the end of the regular season was 16-16 and at the end of the CIT it was 18-17 - how is that only 7 wins better than a 7-25 season?
It's nice to see the stark difference in the reporting-
where they looked for any negative thing before to report - at least now I like how nothing negative gets mentioned & now they look for the positive.
I'd also like to hear an explanation of where the "seven wins better" came from.
Bradley won 7 games last year, and 18 this year- that's 11 games better overall.
Even if you remove the CIT games (since the article lists the CIT separately in the title), the difference is still 7 wins vs. 16 wins - 9 wins better.
And if it's referring to the MVC record only- it went from 2 wins to 7 wins - 5 wins better in the MVC.
There seems to be no possible way to explain the "seven wins better" statement.
Bradley won 7 games last year, and 18 this year- that's 11 games better overall.
Even if you remove the CIT games (since the article lists the CIT separately in the title), the difference is still 7 wins vs. 16 wins - 9 wins better.
And if it's referring to the MVC record only- it went from 2 wins to 7 wins - 5 wins better in the MVC.
There seems to be no possible way to explain the "seven wins better" statement.
Dave also said-
7,411 ??” Average attendance for 15 Carver Arena games, fourth lowest in 31 seasons.
What 3 years was that better than?
And the Bradley website say the correct average attendance was 6557. Where does that rank? And why are we only parsing out certain games and ignoring the 3 least attended games?
7,411 ??” Average attendance for 15 Carver Arena games, fourth lowest in 31 seasons.
What 3 years was that better than?
And the Bradley website say the correct average attendance was 6557. Where does that rank? And why are we only parsing out certain games and ignoring the 3 least attended games?
bradleyfan124
Well-known member
It will take time T. Next season it will start to grow back. The season after the attendence will be back.I know a couple former season ticket holders who have said they are renewing their tickets again next season
tornado
New member
but likewise I have also talked with numerous fans who feel pushed out and unwanted...
the moving of games to the new campus, multiple changes from logos to TV availability of road games, and no mention whatsoever of a post-season banquet or recognition ceremony...
People wanna feel part of the program....not feel left out unless that pony up big $$
the moving of games to the new campus, multiple changes from logos to TV availability of road games, and no mention whatsoever of a post-season banquet or recognition ceremony...
People wanna feel part of the program....not feel left out unless that pony up big $$
Must be really great fans.
Always looked forward to all the pre-season and post season banquets etc. The pre-season chicken and spaghetti at the ITOO was a great way to start the season by getting to meet the players and hear the coach's comments about what he expected out of each player. Just not the same, to me anyway.
Here is what is driving many fans away, and the PJS pretending it isn't the case, and the excuses they make simply isn't fooling the Bradley fans.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/sos
check Bradley at #177 on the overall Strength of Schedule. Then look over to the right and see the Nonconference SOS #339.
There is simly no excuse for that. Ever. I didn't even know there were that many teams. As far as I can check, no Missouri Valley team has ever been that low. And I doubt any Bradley team has been within a hundred of that number in their history. All these ridiculous articles boasting of improvement and making excuses for the horrible schedule is embarrassing to see by Dave Reynolds. It's not fooling anyone. He used to be a great beat writer, but now he and Kirk are just a house boys for the Bradley folks.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/sos
check Bradley at #177 on the overall Strength of Schedule. Then look over to the right and see the Nonconference SOS #339.
There is simly no excuse for that. Ever. I didn't even know there were that many teams. As far as I can check, no Missouri Valley team has ever been that low. And I doubt any Bradley team has been within a hundred of that number in their history. All these ridiculous articles boasting of improvement and making excuses for the horrible schedule is embarrassing to see by Dave Reynolds. It's not fooling anyone. He used to be a great beat writer, but now he and Kirk are just a house boys for the Bradley folks.
OK, we all know the schedule was unusually weak, and the excuses we are seeing would not have been accepted by the press a couple years ago. But I expect it to be better next year and that is all we can focus on now. I know fans were frustrated with the poor quality of opponents, and it was reflected in the attendance for those games.
Let's focus on further improvements to the team, and the recruiting to fill the spots left by the departing players.
Let's focus on further improvements to the team, and the recruiting to fill the spots left by the departing players.
wily coyote
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Not saying your post is totally wrong because it does have some validity but I don't know anybody who didn't renew because of SOS. I do know people who were dissatisified when teams like Quincy and Eastern came in here and beat us. Jim's seat was getting warm in 2006 before we made our FEb.move that led us to one of the most exciting finishes in recent school history. Unfortunatly he was not able to bring in talent to help us improve on that 5th place in 2006. Oh I know we can play the injury card but realistic people realize we were headed south bound on a north bound train. When you have a young team or not a very talented team you have to schedule accordingly and I think that's exactly what has happened. I could be wrong but I think you will see our schedule improve as we become more competitive and I think that will be real soon. Oh one more comment ,Thanks Dave and Kirk for working WITH this staff so we can be informed to the extent we are. Just didn't happen with the last Staff and it was rocket science why.
I didn't take it to mean fans were not renewing season tickets, but that the weak opponents caused a lot of fans to stay home. How else can the low attendance at some of those early games be explained (barely more than 6000 announced).
And again, I don't think this has anything to do with Jim Les. Things were bad the last year of Molinari, but attendance and season ticket sales soared after the 2002 coaching change. So if things are as rosy as we keep reading, why are they dropping now?
And again, I don't think this has anything to do with Jim Les. Things were bad the last year of Molinari, but attendance and season ticket sales soared after the 2002 coaching change. So if things are as rosy as we keep reading, why are they dropping now?
wily coyote
Active member
You may not have taken that way but I did. Doesn't matter whether it's season tickets or butts in the seats. That's just my take on why people aren't in them NOT our SOS as someone posted prior. The economy could also have a large part to do with it. When we put W's in the win column IMO that will all be a distant memory for MOST of US.
I think the boost in attendance after Mo was let go was because people were tired of watching 42 to 40 games and the fact we brought in a favorite son.I know some people were not happy with the hire but I think most of us were. Trouble was he didn't deliver and his last 3 to 4 years season tickets may not have suffered much but butts in the seats did and that message was delivered loud and clear.
3rd year in a row - whatsup? Fans loved these events.
bravetime33
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2003 SOS was 1.92.