This year's BU team poll

[lefty]

So what is the purpose of this poll?

And if people are so secure in their belief that we are doing so well and headed in the right direction, why does it cause such conniption fits when they perceive that someone doesn't agree with them? Why can you be happy in believing what you believe?

I am happy in what I believe DC.....

[Bravesfan]

This really is an exercise in silliness. What about a poll to determine if this year was better than it would have been if not for all the fallout of the coaching change?
The problem is that the thousands of fans who have bailed on Bradley aren't around to vote
anymore.

Why is this an exercise in silliness DC? It's a public message board, and anyone can post any poll they want.

And for the record, I think most of those fans will come as our team gets better. Bradley's attendance still ranks third in the Valley even in a down year.

[Da Coach]

For the record- the team is better- than last year. Everyone can see that. The only person who voted otherwise admits he made a mistake. Lake Camelot said it best in the 2nd post.

My point is that many of those who believed winning records, 21 and 22 win seasons, tougher schedules, good academics, clean program, etc. were not good, now seem satisfied with 9th seed and a .500 record against the worst schedule in modern history.

[Braveman]

For the record- the team is better- than last year. Everyone can see that. The only person who voted otherwise admits he made a mistake. Lake Camelot said it best in the 2nd post.

My point is that many of those who believed winning records, 21 and 22 win seasons, tougher schedules, good academics, clean program, etc. were not good, now seem satisfied with 9th seed and a .500 record against the worst schedule in modern history.

This thread is the beauty of a message board... People can focus on, or ignore whatever numbers, facts, etc they want in order to make their points... Is BU the 9th seed? Yes, due to tie-breakers. BUt they finished 7th as well in the league... Did BU win 21/ 22 games a few years back- yes, due to start up first time tourneys that we would be happy to be in as a struggling team...

And as far as I know, we still have good academics and a clean program...Is BU better than last year, I think most would find it hard to say no, as we have more wins, seem to have more backbone and heart.

Are we happy just being the 9th seed? Of course not...

Too much nit-picking diminishes our fandom IMO and isn't very constructive. Let's just say that people believe what they want to believe, and leave it at that... It is not my place to judge right or wrong

[Braves4Life]

My point is that many of those who believed winning records, 21 and 22 win seasons, tougher schedules, good academics, clean program, etc. were not good, now seem satisfied with 9th seed and a .500 record against the worst schedule in modern history.

I think "satisfied" is a poor choice of word Da Coach. As obvious as it is that we have improved it is also obvious that no one is satisfied with a .500 record. Rather, we understand that this is a process and are satisfied with the progress that the Geno Ford regime has made, and is making. It appears that sooner, rather than later, we may be back to our previous level and will hopefully exceed the previous level under Geno's proven leadership. That was the whole reason a change was wanted by many and made by the BU Administration... The goal was to win MVC Championships and get back to a major post season tournament.

[Beninator]

I think "satisfied" is a poor choice of word Da Coach. As obvious as it is that we have improved it is also obvious that no one is satisfied with a .500 record. Rather, we understand that this is a process and are satisfied with the progress that the Geno Ford regime has made, and is making. It appears that sooner, rather than later, we may be back to our previous level and will hopefully exceed the previous level under Geno's proven leadership. That was the whole reason a change was wanted by many and made by the BU Administration... The goal was to win MVC Championships and get back to a major post season tournament.

Well said Braves4Life!

[lefty]

yeah....I don't think anyone is satisfied at all. If we have this kind of season next year it would be a major disappointment......

[alczervik75]

For the record- the team is better- than last year. Everyone can see that. The only person who voted otherwise admits he made a mistake. Lake Camelot said it best in the 2nd post.

My point is that many of those who believed winning records, 21 and 22 win seasons, tougher schedules, good academics, clean program, etc. were not good, now seem satisfied with 9th seed and a .500 record against the worst schedule in modern history.

Would Bradley have been better last year with Remy? Yes.

Would they have been better this year? Probably, but Pickett helped a lot.

Did Geno Ford inherit one of the worst rosters in Bradley history, yes.

Is 7-11 in the MVC and being a team that is between 150 - 200 in college basketball an acceptable season for Bradley in the grand scheme of things? No.

Is it acceptable for a second year given what was inherited and improvement of a couple players? Yes.

Will the same people who were not satisfied with Les be satisfied with Geno if these are the results we have in 2 years? No.

Did some fans leave because of the coaching change? Yes.

Would some fans have left anyway? Probably

Are there some fans happy about the direction who may have left if there hadn't been a change? Probably.

Is there benefit to the University or Program by being negative about the improvement because of what might have happened in a mythical parallel universe? No.

Will there be plenty of time in two years to tell people "I told you so" when there are enough facts about the new staff if it doesn't continue to improve? Yes.

But, hey, I'm a newbie here, so feel free to discuss as you wish.

[Braves4Life]

My point is that many of those who believed winning records, 21 and 22 win seasons, tougher schedules, good academics, clean program, etc. were not good, now seem satisfied with 9th seed and a .500 record against the worst schedule in modern history.

I think you need to give credit where credit is due. The coach is only carrying out the mandate of the University President, which is supervised and enforced by the AD. Les did a great job of following this particular mandate and, by all accounts, Geno is as well. Certainly, the credit for much of what you see as past successes goes to those who set and enforce the standards -- President Glasser and Dr. Cross.

[Bravesfan]

Would Bradley have been better last year with Remy? Yes.

Would they have been better this year? Probably, but Pickett helped a lot.

Did Geno Ford inherit one of the worst rosters in Bradley history, yes.

Is 7-11 in the MVC and being a team that is between 150 - 200 in college basketball an acceptable season for Bradley in the grand scheme of things? No.

Is it acceptable for a second year given what was inherited and improvement of a couple players? Yes.

Will the same people who were not satisfied with Les be satisfied with Geno if these are the results we have in 2 years? No.

Did some fans leave because of the coaching change? Yes.

Would some fans have left anyway? Probably

Are there some fans happy about the direction who may have left if there hadn't been a change? Probably.

Is there benefit to the University or Program by being negative about the improvement because of what might have happened in a mythical parallel universe? No.

Will there be plenty of time in two years to tell people "I told you so" when there are enough facts about the new staff if it doesn't continue to improve? Yes.

But, hey, I'm a newbie here, so feel free to discuss as you wish.

Spot on post Al! Welcome to the boards.

[Old Coach]

Do we now have a sincere vote for "the same"?

[lake Camelot]

In a strange way I admire someone willing to post a vote that way at this point. If they actually feel that way. Maybe they feel the schedule was too easy.

I personally don't think it is even close. But at least they are willing to say they still feel we were the same or maybe unless we win the Valley it is still the same to them. I am not sure.

[mrcoachdude]

I almost voted "same"...because the team is very similar and has many of the same players...but in the end, this years team was improved mainly by the way they played and were tougher...onward and upward

[LittleBrave]

I think "satisfied" is a poor choice of word Da Coach. As obvious as it is that we have improved it is also obvious that no one is satisfied with a .500 record. Rather, we understand that this is a process and are satisfied with the progress that the Geno Ford regime has made, and is making. It appears that sooner, rather than later, we may be back to our previous level and will hopefully exceed the previous level under Geno's proven leadership. That was the whole reason a change was wanted by many and made by the BU Administration... The goal was to win MVC Championships and get back to a major post season tournament.

You nailed it B4L. Must be that extra year you've added that brings such great wisdom and insight.