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My recollection is multiple 20+ win seasons and a Sweet 16. And we didn't have to play 340+ SOS to accomplish it. What will pie in the sky people like you say when we are still playing Thursdays in 1 and 2 more years?
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Dude - why not come back and post here AFTER Geno is gone. Even posters who are avid JL backers have accepted Geno, or at least give us that impression.Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
What's the point of coming on here in you don't support the current team, which you obviously don't.
Geno's not going away anytime soon, so save yourself the agony and find another sport or college team to watch in the meantime.Comment
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I'm just stating the facts.Comment
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By fan 9 is a supporter of the team. Just not a fan of losing and Thursday humiliation. Lots of fans have become disenchanted. This was by far the smallest contingent of Bradley fans I have ever seen down here in St. Louis, and most were very unhappy about last night. We are losing a lot of solid fan support and donations. We need to right the ship. We can't make excuses about 3 or 4 more years.Comment
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The POTUS has done it for FOUR years with G. Dub. Maybe we have two more years of this before we are done with the blame game?? I HOPE NOT.Originally posted by Da Coach View PostComment
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Randon thoughts....
Kids, let's deal with reality. Fight the chicken little reflex. When it come down to it, the reason teams lose or win is the players. You recruit the guys you can get, then you coach em up and hope things work out. If you are a D1 coach, you are competent enough to produce a winning product, if the players work hard and things gel. Once you start to win, you will get better players.
We got every ounce of talent out of Jake Eastman and Will Egolf. DSE gave us more than we were looking for, and Milos did jack $#!+, and that is totally on him. It's not on Jim Les, or Geno Ford. It's on Milos.
Jim Les did some good things and is qualified to be a D1 coach. In my opinion, he deserved another year. In the twilight of his BU coaching career he had a ton of bad luck, rubbed some people the wrong way, and got into arguments with people who buy ink by the barrel. That led to a change. Agree or disagree all you want. It was a judgment call.
Geno Ford is doing fine. He knows what he is doing and keeps the ship running straight, but, again, it is the players who win and lose, not the coaches.
When players lose and things grow stagnant, coaches get fired. That has always been the reality of college and pro sports.
You can like JL all you want and be friends with him. Fantastic. But don't turn that friendship into thinly veiled shots at Geno's coaching. It's not Geno's fault JL was fired. And even if Geno goes 0-27 next year doesn't change the fact that JL was not as successful as some people would have liked. They are unrelated issues.
Just my opinions.Comment
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I have accepted the firing (though I was against it). I actually liked the Geno hiring. he was 2 for 2 winning regular season conference championships, and that is the best way to get an NCAA bid. This year we ended up finishing exactly where I expected (8 or 9 ), which I am OK with personally. My concern is that I expect a decline in performance next year, which I am NOT ok with. Maybe we get some new players that will change my mind, but right now that is my concern. We lose 3 starters and I don't know how we're going to replace them. I guess I'll ask most people on here - Do you expect improvement next year? And if so who will be those who step up to contribute more than Jake, Will and DSE?Originally posted by Tulsa Brave View Post
I really hope my worries are unjustified, and I actually really like some of the transfer rumors (even if we're a couple years away from reaping the rewards), but I don't see how we are competing for championships in years 3-4 right now.Comment
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I want that as badly as anyone - and I will be there as always so if you're gonna get mad at any fansOriginally posted by Tulsa Brave View Post
get mad at the ones who wanted the changes but then left & didn't want to hang around when going gets tough.....
but I think it's fair to be dissatisfied with last place finishes and embarrassing losses
no matter how many years the coach is in position...Geno himself asked to be held to a high standard.
But - there is a point when you get far enough into a deep, dark tunnel that one begins to wonder
that even if I find a way out in a few more years - that it was a bad mistake to take that route and that
the experience was not pleasant and one would hope to never see such an experience again.Comment
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Nobody knows what will happen 2 seasons from now. We can only hope for the best. Thus, I don't find it reasonable to compare where we were 4-5 years ago to 2 years from now.
I don't feel the need to point out the players from the past regime who have or haven't been good enough, nor do I feel the need to dash the hopes of the new recruits that we haven't given a fair shake.
This year's team was a mix of the last 2 coaches, but nonetheless a TEAM, and each player should be given the same criticism no matter who recruited them. Ultimately though, the harshest criticism does and should come on the upperclassmen who have had the most time to achieve. Unfortunately, it gets pointed out continuously about who recruited them.
Three key seniors are now done here at Bradley and trying to figure out if they were MVC-caliber or not is futile. We should appreciate their contributions and tremendous effort and sacrifice while at BU.
For those of you who don't see us rising to a better place over the next couple seasons, I feel sorry for the mindset you have in not being able to hold hopes for better days - only looking to the failures of the past 2 seasons instead of the successes.Comment
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Very well put.Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
I don't have a problem with people agreeing with the firing, think Geno is doing great, or vice versa. Geno needs to produce (as any coach does) and I question whether we/he will have the players to do so next year...Comment
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I think that it's premature to see what kind of light is at the end of the tunnel. I'm willing to go into that dark tunnel even if it means staying in there for 2 more years before seeing the light that isn't quite as bright as what I had hoped. All we can do is trust in the conductor and if he's run the course to the best of his ability, that's all I can ask for.Originally posted by tornado View Post
And when the conductor leads us off track, whether it was by circumstance or under his control, then we will get a new conductor to try to get us back on the right one.
That's what happened 2 years ago, and if it has to happen 4 years from now, then so be it.Comment
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For sure we will stay on this course. There is no way another change will be made in these next 2-3 years. And I don't think anyone is saying that. I think many fans just expected much better by now.Comment
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one benefit - we get a couple weeks head start on the recruiting trail...Comment
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