Big Ten poaching the ACC?

[tornado]

talk of Big Ten expansion includes Virginia, Georgia Tech - this isn't necessarily new....but now talk includes even North Carolina!!

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2013/2/21/4008594/what-would-unc-virginia-and-georgia-tech-bring-to-the-big-ten

https://twitter.com/insidemdsports/status/303927988326641664

[SFP]

Virginia makes sense then NC. Now if they also went after Vandy I could see GT because every B1G team has another B1G state on its border. I'm not sure if its a rule or just coincidence.

[AZ BU Fan]

I still think there end up being 4 x 16 BCS Team Super Conferences with 2 Divisions of 8 in each Conference, E, N, S, and W...

This conveniently lines up with a 64 Team Dance just for the Big Boys.

It would also provide teams for the BCS 8 team playoffs coming soon. Playoff as well. .

[Bravesfan]

I still think there end up being 4 x 16 BCS Team Super Conferences with 2 Divisions of 8 in each Conference, E, N, S, and W...

This conveniently lines up with a 64 Team Dance just for the Big Boys.

It would also provide teams for the BCS 8 team playoffs coming soon. Playoff as well. .

Yeah, I can see it now. All 64 teams make the Big Dance every year!

[Braves4Life]

Since UNC is one of the named schools with the ACC in their lawsuit against Maryland I find it doubtful that they pull the same stunt.

[tornado]

$$$$$$$
...there really is no ACC Network...
once a few east coast teams are in the big Ten the amont of subscribers fees is expected to go up $100 million per year!

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/19/maryland-and-rutgers-could-bring-big-ten-network-extra-100-million-per-year-in-subscriber-fees/

[Da Coach]

Surprising- University of Maryland lost $21 million last year. They hope to make up some of the loss by moving to the Big Ten-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/maryland-athletics-continues-to-struggle-financially-despite-planned-move-to-big-ten/2013/08/13/1a7c5ecc-0419-11e3-88d6-d5795fab4637_story.html

[tornado]

call me a skeptic but I have to think this is typical creative accounting..
First $15 million of their claimed $21 million loss is actually money they would have liked to get but never did...

It's like me saying I lost a million dollars last year because I bought a lottery ticket expecting to win but I did not!

Then the Athletic Dept - was able to pay their debts by "borrowing" other funds from the University's accounts -- obviously a fancy way of making the taxpayers foot the bill.


Their Athletic Director has a great idea....everyone go out and do "fundraising"...like a charity -- maybe selling candy bars???

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terrapins-insider/wp/2013/08/13/maryland-ad-kevin-anderson-wasnt-surprised-by-anything-in-big-ten-commission-report/

BTW their basketball and football head coaches are way at the top of the salary scale in the ACC!!!

Mark Turgeon - $2 million+ per year - guaranteed for 8 years plus up to $500,000 additional in incentives - 2nd in ACC
Randy Edsall - $2 million per year plus $950,000 in incentives - 5th in ACC

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terrapins-insider/post/guaranteed-annual-pay-for-turgeon-edsall-in-top-half-of-acc-coaches/2011/07/15/gIQA3vOLGI_blog.html

[ChewaBrave]

I couldn't be happier for Maryland. They're move paved the way for Louisville to end up in the ACC. Sure, they have a horrible athletic program from an accounting, and athletics standpoint, but now that is the BIG 10's problem.

[Texas Terp]

Come on, man

First of all, Maryland sports have a much more storied history than Louisville if you look beyond only the last few years. Maryland's football and basketball teams are in transition, but both are going in the right direction (especially basketball).

Second, the University of Maryland sits in a huge, top 10 metropolitan area. Louisville is not.

Third, the University of Maryland has the academics to qualify for the CIC, which is part of the B1G. Louisville does not.

Fourth, the financial losses are largely a result of the ACC withholding payment to Maryland. The above poster had it right.

Fifth, Maryland was invited to join the B1G. And the B1G gave Maryland extra concessions to join. Louisville was not invited.

Sixth, Maryland is strong in many sports, especially women's basketball, lacrosse and soccer.

Thanks.

[ChewaBrave]

First of all, Maryland sports have a much more storied history than Louisville if you look beyond only the last few years. Maryland's football and basketball teams are in transition, but both are going in the right direction (especially basketball).

Second, the University of Maryland sits in a huge, top 10 metropolitan area. Louisville is not.

Third, the University of Maryland has the academics to qualify for the CIC, which is part of the B1G. Louisville does not.

Fourth, the financial losses are largely a result of the ACC withholding payment to Maryland. The above poster had it right.

Fifth, Maryland was invited to join the B1G. And the B1G gave Maryland extra concessions to join. Louisville was not invited.

Sixth, Maryland is strong in many sports, especially women's basketball, lacrosse and soccer.

Thanks.

LOL, where did I make a single point about Louisville being better than Maryland? Man someone is just uptight. Calm down - take a moment to compose yourself, then re-enter the conversation.

For clarification purposes, as I said, Maryland leaving the ACC paved the way for Louisville - I'm not sure how that can be refuted. Maryland's major athletics are in "a transition" as you said, and largely insignificant. I'm sure they will right as rain soon. Their horrid financial situation will also improve with all that big 10 money and possibly cutting more sports (after cutting 7 or so already), but right now they are financially in the can.

Personally, I don't sit around all that much and compare random schools athletics 'traditions' and I would actually tend to agree with Maryland's general lifetime accomplishments are bountiful, but I wouldn't disregard Louisville either. They are currently sitting on 3 Div-1 NCAA titles, and and a hell of a lot more overall wins in Basketball. As well, you mean like the same women's basketball that Louisville played in the NC last season? To be fair, the women's team is historically more successful than both the Louisville women, and the Maryland men. Or Soccer, like how both Maryland and Louisville are in the Top 10? Pretty sure Lacrosse is a club sport at Louisville, but we'll just call it a wash when compared to Louisville's historically (statistically speaking of course) superior baseball program.

Does that make them better than Maryland? or Vice versa? Honestly, I don't care - because that has nothing to do with this thread or anything I said in my post. Just relax next time and read the post, as opposed to randomly running in and shouting irrelevant garbage.

[Texas Terp]

Oh okay.

Oh, I guess I took your bait when you said: "Sure, they have a horrible athletic program from an accounting, and athletics standpoint, but now that is the BIG 10's problem." Apology accepted.

[ChewaBrave]

Oh, I guess I took your bait when you said: "Sure, they have a horrible athletic program from an accounting, and athletics standpoint, but now that is the BIG 10's problem." Apology accepted.

Just a heads up, type in Maryland Athletics into google. When all the headlines are about how dire the financial situation is, how awful ticket sales have been, how incredibly poorly mismanaged the athletic department has been run, how the department will continue to run budget deficits for years, how they are literally broke and have been making little or losing money for the better part of a decade - your athletic department is pretty rough. There are plenty of fantastic teams and athletes at Maryland, but the department that runs those athletics is a joke. Read for yourself, the "transitioning sports" are having a tough go. I personally stunned that you hired Edsall but different strokes. Right now your powrr athletics are aren't all that significant. I hope nothing but the best of Maryland, largely because I don't spend any real time thinking about them.

Generally if I'm trying to "bait" Maryland fans it wouldn't be on a Bradley message board with a pretty tame comment referencing a pretty obvious set of circumstances.