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I'd like to think our experienced group of seniors & juniors are peaking and that we can win all our remaining games...If so then we'd finish 10-8 and possibly finish 4-5-or-6th...
If we lose one MVC game we might still possibly stay out of Thursday - but if we lose two and end up 8-10 in MVC play, then since both Evansville & ISU have the SOS tiebreaker on us we're going to play Thursday.
I cannot imagine anyone in our league will be impressed enough by a Play-in finish to even give one vote to our coach for COY.Comment
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Not if we own the 3 way tie round robin tiebreaker with Evansville. That comes before the Jankovich SOS tiebreaker.Originally posted by tornado View PostComment
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If BU, ISU, and UE all end up tied, it goes into a mini round robin pool. I believe Bradley would be above UE if ISU can beat Evansville this week.Comment
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Honestly, I think Geno could be more deserving than any other coach. Although, I agree with many that he won't get the award.
When you look at where we were at, how we were picked, and our depth as compared to many other Valley schools you could definitely make a case for Geno.
Either way, I think it's been a fun year to watch this group playWhen the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.Comment
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For the record, here is the 2012-2013 preseason poll-Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66
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Regardless of GF getting consideration for COY, tonight I'll raise a glass to Bradley over-achieving and Illinois State under-achieving!Originally posted by Da Coach View PostComment
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I join you with that glass. I never had IllSU as a favorite. I had UNI and IndSU ahead of them. I have no idea how IndSU was picked so low. I also have no idea how MSU was picked above us????Originally posted by BUBalum05 View Post"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
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No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66
I would love for Geno to get COY but I don't see that happening this year. I do see it for him in the future though. Looking at the pre season picks my vote would be the INS blue coach getting the COY award. I hope he does and not Marshall. We'll know soon.Comment
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The voters will factor in the 3 starter injuries they had.Originally posted by tornado View PostComment
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maybe - but actually, FWO - of the 3 "injured" starters - there's actually a little serendipity that makes Gregg Marshall look good when in fact it also exposes some bad coaching moves he might have been making before it cost them........Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
...so although it won't be popular with Shocker fans - I am going to play spoiler a little...
One of the "injured" has returned and only missed 7 games ...and interestingly Wichita was 6-1 in those games without Hall,
BUT ..... they were also 6-1 in the 7 games before he went out and they kept winning all their games for the next two weeks after Hall returned as well!!
- so even tho he was a starter - it's debatable whether it is or was his absence that made any difference or was it just the time span and the teams that were on the schedule that was the only determining factor...
The other two "injured" guys may actually have forced Marshall to use players off his bench that he simply did not know were every bit as good maybe better than the ones he lost...so how is this good coaching??
Baker averaged just 7 ppg in his 10 games and Wessel in his 8 games barely averaged 5 ppg.
Wessel's absence moved Cleanthony Early into the starting lineup - so the argument could be made HOW THE HECK was Gregg Marshall NOT starting Cleanthony Early the first 1/4 of the season - forcing Early to put up 25-point games to let Marshall know his talents were being wasted as a bench player...Early has had the NBA scouts there watching him and yet he wasn't a starter until Marshall was forced to start him?? Good coaching??
Then when Baker went out with his 5.5 ppg average - that forced Marshall to move Demetric Williams into the lineup and it's pretty apparent to anyone who's watched the Shox, that Williams is a better player and should have been starting over Baker!
Demetric's numbers are considerably better across the board from what Baker was giving them...plus he's become a team leader.
I think they are a better team with him in the starting lineup.
Oddly - just a month ago there was this article...
"Wichita State - HOT START, NOW ABOUT TO GET HEALTHY..."
hinting that now that they were getting their injured players back - they were going to take off and be unstoppable...
BUT..........now they're just 3-3 since beating Bradley with most everyone "healthy"....
so again - can one use this to argue for good coaching??
Let's see how WSU does down the stretch before engraving Gregg's name...
they still have to play at Indiana State & Creighton plus two tough games vs. Evansville & Detroit.Comment
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The healthy guys give them good depth, which is one of the reasons you listed as why they won against ISU. So maybe they don't win that game if they are still hurt.Comment
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I hop GF does tooOriginally posted by wily coyote View PostWhen the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.Comment
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I'm going to bet that the ISU/WSU incident in the tunnel will have an impact on the COY voting. BTW who are the voters?"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
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