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  • #46
    Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
    well if history repeats itself........

    (sorry I had to)
    How about the status quo? I want to see a jump in performance the next two years or otherwise I'm not going to be happy! As I keep saying I can see the coaching is excellent but able, tall, skilled athletic bodies IMO are still missing in the overall equation. If I'm a skilled big I'd have to consider BU because of playing time and an appearance of a back court that should be able to help your game.
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    • #47
      I think Geno so far has done a good job of coaching. Everyone needs to give him time to recruit his players in here. That may take 2 to 4 years. I believe he is trying real hard. The fact he hired Ron Coleman shows he wants to try to get the best players he can out of Chicago. He will get it done. I like the recruits he has gotten so far

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      • #48
        No bench

        You can't win with 5 guys. There is no bench at all. Those guys are logging heavy minutes. You think Prosser and Shayok and kadarryl give us anything off the bench ? Everytime we substitute it's a problem. Need some recruits coming in ready to play cause this bench is bad. Hate to hear the horn. That's the reality of it and how we have won 14 games is incredible in itself.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by gerry View Post
          You can't win with 5 guys. There is no bench at all. Those guys are logging heavy minutes. You think Prosser and Shayok and kadarryl give us anything off the bench ? Everytime we substitute it's a problem. Need some recruits coming in ready to play cause this bench is bad. Hate to hear the horn. That's the reality of it and how we have won 14 games is incredible in itself.
          If we weren't so short on the bench already I think we should have redshirted bell. He's shown flashes of being a good player but could have benefited more from a redshirt year

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          • #50
            Originally posted by gerry View Post
            You can't win with 5 guys. There is no bench at all. Those guys are logging heavy minutes. You think Prosser and Shayok and kadarryl give us anything off the bench ? Everytime we substitute it's a problem. Need some recruits coming in ready to play cause this bench is bad. Hate to hear the horn. That's the reality of it and how we have won 14 games is incredible in itself.
            The more I watch (other Valley teams) the more I think we have one of the best backcourt tandems in the Valley...you know I really like our players, but our whole front court has had a rough time this year...bench or not...glimpses of nice production, but struggles...Thought Pross did some nice things Sunday...the tip in was nice...thought Bell played some good "D", but I need to watch the tape some more...
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            • #51
              Originally posted by gerry View Post
              You can't win with 5 guys. There is no bench at all. Those guys are logging heavy minutes. You think Prosser and Shayok and kadarryl give us anything off the bench ? Everytime we substitute it's a problem. Need some recruits coming in ready to play cause this bench is bad. Hate to hear the horn. That's the reality of it and how we have won 14 games is incredible in itself.
              Prosser's down to single digit minutes.

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              • #52
                We are a 8th or 9th place team in the MVC.

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                • #53
                  We are playing hard with less than ideal roster. Give credit to the guys. But KW is right. We need to be more consistent.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by SFP View Post
                    How about the status quo? I want to see a jump in performance the next two years or otherwise I'm not going to be happy! As I keep saying I can see the coaching is excellent but able, tall, skilled athletic bodies IMO are still missing in the overall equation. If I'm a skilled big I'd have to consider BU because of playing time and an appearance of a back court that should be able to help your game.
                    I'll be happy with the status quo next year (15 to 17 wins) IF it leads to 20+ wins and at least an NIT appearance in year four. I think this is quite doable, but there has to be at least some expectation of some growing pains at least early next year until this team gels.

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                    • #55
                      I do think that Geno made a judgement and burned this year in a sense, looking to the future. Milos, Grier and Fields are three scholarships that loom large on a team with depth issue.

                      History will show if it was the right decision, but I do think it is fair to judge Geno for that decision.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                        We are a 8th or 9th place team in the MVC.
                        do you think we'll be there for a while...?
                        this season we field a more experienced, athletic, older lineup than we will at any time for years to come...
                        The average age of our five starters this year is nearly 22 and a half years old!!!!!! Likely no team in Bradley's history except the use of 28-year olds after WWII - has BU started five guys whose average age is older than 22.
                        ..the vast majority of our minutes are played by seniors, 6th year seniors, juniors, and 4th year juniors..all of whom have started plenty of games for several years.
                        Next year at least 3 of our starters will be guys who have not started very much - a couple might have to be guys who never even played here before..

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                        • #57
                          I'm certain that next year there will be 2 and likely 3 starters who have never played a game for the Braves. That being said, two of them will have a year of D-I experience, and if there is a third, he'll likely have 1-2 years of JUCO experience. I'm not worried about the tenure of the players, if the talent level is higher (and deeper).

                          I presumed Bradley an 8th or 9th place team at the beginning of the season, but with fewer wins than they'll end up with. If you would have told me that they would finish 16-15, I would have figured that they would be better than the bottom 3 in the league.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            do you think we'll be there for a while...?
                            this season we field a more experienced, athletic, older lineup than we will at any time for years to come...
                            The average age of our five starters this year is nearly 22 and a half years old!!!!!! Likely no team in Bradley's history except the use of 28-year olds after WWI - has BU started five guys whose average age is older than 22.
                            ..the vast majority of our minutes are played by seniors, 6th year seniors, juniors, and 4th year juniors..all of whom have started plenty of games for several years.
                            Next year at least 3 of our starters will be guys who have not started very much - a couple might have to be guys who never even played here before..


                            Being old does not = good. Geno could recruit the markin and it would be better than Milos.

                            Here is how I see it. This year BU is beating bad teams closely and losing to good teams. Next year the schedule will pick up, but win totals remain steady but beating better teams close. The year after next - win big. I think that's a blueprint for any rebuilding team, let alone one that was so far down.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
                              Being old does not = good. Geno could recruit the markin and it would be better than Milos.

                              Here is how I see it. This year BU is beating bad teams closely and losing to good teams. Next year the schedule will pick up, but win totals remain steady but beating better teams close. The year after next - win big. I think that's a blueprint for any rebuilding team, let alone one that was so far down.
                              true these "older" players are the same players that lead us right through the last two embarrassing seasons. so I wouldn't expect a major increase in performance.

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                              • #60
                                those expectations sound eerily similar to these which said when Geno was hired that we would surely be better right off the bat because we couldn't possibly get any worse....we did

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