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  • #76
    Originally posted by SFP View Post
    Really? Where will he go? He'll be a senior. He'll be back regardless of who we recruit and frankly I'm glad.
    Really? I was under the impression he's a senior now.....unless he isn't on pace to graduate. I guess I don't really know for sure....just figured he would be graduating. I don't think I'd be glad if the staff felt obligated somehow to save a scholarship for a player that has graduated. I'd be even more disappointed if they didn't have other players lined up for the available scholarships. It's time to move along and get some players here that can contribute in the conference season.
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • #77
      Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
      Really? I was under the impression he's a senior now.....unless he isn't on pace to graduate. I guess I don't really know for sure....just figured he would be graduating. I don't think I'd be glad if the staff felt obligated somehow to save a scholarship for a player that has graduated. I'd be even more disappointed if they didn't have other players lined up for the available scholarships. It's time to move along and get some players here that can contribute in the conference season.
      The fact that Milos is still here says a lot.
      I don't see how they don't welcome JP with open arms to continue playing. I think the staff loves this kid, as do a lot of BU fans. For all the commitment JP has put forth toward his team and has been a big part of this team since he put on a BU uniform, don't think it's right to let him go - no matter how poorly he plays, or how disgruntled we are at his lack of production, which is subjective among us fans.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
        The fact that Milos is still here says a lot.
        I don't see how they don't welcome JP with open arms to continue playing. I think the staff loves this kid, as do a lot of BU fans. For all the commitment JP has put forth toward his team and has been a big part of this team since he put on a BU uniform, don't think it's right to let him go - no matter how poorly he plays, or how disgruntled we are at his lack of production, which is subjective among us fans.

        Milos has not graduated.

        Jordan should graduate this May. He could opt to go to Big State U in the MAC that has a graduate program of interest to him and play immediately in a MAC/OVC type scenario.

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        • #79
          Here's my position on JP and it's quite simple. We need to recruit over him with one or both of the remaining rides. He stays but gets 8 to 9 minutes a game. I see no need to run him off with one yr. left.There are one or two other people that would serve us better by moving on than JP.Hope SS stays still think he can be of some help off the bench the next couple of years. If he or JP are starters next year we still will be fighting like h--l to stay out of thur. night.JMO and it doesn't mean much but it's how I see it.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
            Here's my position on JP and it's quite simple. We need to recruit over him with one or both of the remaining rides. He stays but gets 8 to 9 minutes a game. I see no need to run him off with one yr. left.There are one or two other people that would serve us better by moving on than JP.Hope SS stays still think he can be of some help off the bench the next couple of years. If he or JP are starters next year we still will be fighting like h--l to stay out of thur. night.JMO and it doesn't mean much but it's how I see it.
            I agree with you. The only way for any D1 program to improve and move higher in the conference and nationally is to constantly recruit, and even "recruit over" any existing player if you can land a player who makes you better.

            We haven't done this lately as evidenced by the following-
            We have only 6 players who average more than 16.5 minutes per game
            There are only 6 players who average more than 4.4 ppg- the same 6
            And there are only 6 players who average more than 1.4 rebounds per game- the same 6.

            And 5 of those 6 players who lead this team in virtually every category are "left over" players who have been in the program for 3, 4, 6, 4, and 4 years. That is an average of over 4 years in the program for these 5 players. Hopefully this will start to change with next year's recruits and transfers.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              ..only way for any D1 program to improve and move higher in the conference and nationally is to constantly recruit, and even "recruit over" any existing player...
              have anyone we've recruited the past couple years been one who was "recruited over"..
              maybe Tyshon jumped past a couple others who played his position...but then he was a juco and more experienced than the two he jumped past.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                The fact that Milos is still here says a lot.
                I don't see how they don't welcome JP with open arms to continue playing. I think the staff loves this kid, as do a lot of BU fans. For all the commitment JP has put forth toward his team and has been a big part of this team since he put on a BU uniform, don't think it's right to let him go - no matter how poorly he plays, or how disgruntled we are at his lack of production, which is subjective among us fans.
                I believe Milos is still here because he had not graduated and chose to stay and finish his schooling at Bradley even though he was made aware exactly where his seat on the bench would be. I do not have a problem with letting players know where they stand, what is expected of them, and allowing them to make the decision to stay or not. I do not expect the staff to do this with players that have already graduated from Bradley, unless there is an open spot on the roster. It is my hope the staff has other players they can get in here as soon as possible.
                ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                • #83
                  Prosser has one of the worst "skill sets" I have ever seen... being an undersized center...that is worst case scenario....

                  He has been here 4 years... he isn't going to dramatically improve.

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                  • #84
                    as p[H] said....

                    in conference play..JP is near the bottom of the team in nearly every category (FG%, Rebounding, Pts)

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                    • #85
                      Judging the recruiting class of 2012 is hard. Half the class has been in street clothes on the end of the bench all year. If Grier and Fields were eligible this year it probably puts Eastman on the bench in mop up duty. It would also be a lot easier to keep Walt's and DSE's minutes at a more manageable level.

                      The 2011 recruiting class is eh. The jury is out on Wells which we expected regardless of coach. Shayok has potential. Crawford is eh. The other two were shipped out which is a great sign. Hopefully Geno will realize recruiting mistakes before they become scholarship wastes as 3rd or 4th year guys.

                      The 2013 class is unknown at this point. From all accounts Tucker seems to be a great get. The serb seems unknown at this point but if he can come in and shoot there will be Crawfordish minutes to be had for him.

                      Geno, Jaden, and Chin have to land a couple of big men in this class.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
                        .. If Grier and Fields were eligible this year it probably puts Eastman on the bench in mop up duty. ...
                        well, I am not so sure of this -

                        in the only visible evidence of how they played when they were on the same court at the same time...
                        My recollection was that Jake clearly outplayed & outscored both of them...

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          well, I am not so sure of this -

                          in the only visible evidence of how they played when they were on the same court at the same time...
                          My recollection was that Jake clearly outplayed & outscored both of them...
                          You mean since they aren't playing this year or have you seen them in practice?


                          I like Jake but on his best day he's an adequate player in the Valley

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                          • #88
                            no - the Red-White scrimmage they played head to head - Fields was scoreless but handled the ball well,
                            Grier hit a bucket from the arc in 3 tries but Jake had a pretty good all around game

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              no - the Red-White scrimmage they played head to head - Fields was scoreless but handled the ball well,
                              Grier hit a bucket from the arc in 3 tries but Jake had a pretty good all around game

                              ok...got it.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
                                Judging the recruiting class of 2012 is hard. Half the class has been in street clothes on the end of the bench all year. If Grier and Fields were eligible this year it probably puts Eastman on the bench in mop up duty. It would also be a lot easier to keep Walt's and DSE's minutes at a more manageable level.

                                The 2011 recruiting class is eh. The jury is out on Wells which we expected regardless of coach. Shayok has potential. Crawford is eh. The other two were shipped out which is a great sign. Hopefully Geno will realize recruiting mistakes before they become scholarship wastes as 3rd or 4th year guys.

                                The 2013 class is unknown at this point. From all accounts Tucker seems to be a great get. The serb seems unknown at this point but if he can come in and shoot there will be Crawfordish minutes to be had for him.

                                Geno, Jaden, and Chin have to land a couple of big men in this class.
                                I like your assessment and you are 100% correct in that we need to land at least 2 big men in this springs class if we expect to be a better team next season.

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