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  • #31
    Originally posted by Gary the Gargoyle View Post
    It's all about the money. Pay your coach 'big time' money, and he'll likely stay. Give him the opportunity to double is salary somewhere else, and he'll likely move on.
    You beat me to it. For some of the big time mid-major coaches its just not the payday they'll leave for but their dream job. It also goes for BCS coaches moving to another job. ie Mark Turgeon coaching Kansas if given the chance.
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    • #32
      I get the idea that some people are fully satisfied because "we are improved in our conference record"...

      I root for our team to win every game and I want to compete to be the guys at the top of the league...

      If we end up 5th, or say...6th or 7th...are people saying they're ecstatic because we were in the basement last year and we were picked last or next to last this year?
      Not me - I firmly believe we have the talent and ability to compete for at least 4th or 5th and I want even better...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        I get the idea that some people are fully satisfied because "we are improved in our conference record"...

        I root for our team to win every game and I want to compete to be the guys at the top of the league...

        If we end up 5th, or say...6th or 7th...are people saying they're ecstatic because we were in the basement last year and we were picked last or next to last this year?
        Not me - I firmly believe we have the talent and ability to compete for at least 4th or 5th and I want even better...

        1. There is a difference between rooting for BU to win every game and expecting them to win every game. I think every person that takes the time to post here roots for BU to win every game. I think most rational folks understand that they will not win every game, and, more years than not, lose multiple games.

        2. I agree. I want BU to win the MVC. It has been how long? It is time to be consistently contending for MVC titles. I think the year after next is my realistic time frame for that.

        3. I don't believe that there is the top end talent nor the depth on this team to contend for the top of the MVC. I think for this team to compete for the MVC title, Walt would have to be your #2 or #3 guy. Also the #4-8 would have to provide quite a bit more when compared to WSU or CU. Guys like Jake ideally wind up filling your Milos role.

        Although I really don't understand why it is a bad thing to be one of the most improved teams in the country. Baby steps.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
          Although I really don't understand why it is a bad thing to be one of the most improved teams in the country. Baby steps.
          because it's aiming really, really low - kinda like wanting to be Towson

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          • #35
            This is the only year I would want to be on the "most improved" list. As I don't see us doubling our win total next season.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SFP View Post
              You beat me to it. For some of the big time mid-major coaches its just not the payday they'll leave for but their dream job. It also goes for BCS coaches moving to another job. ie Mark Turgeon coaching Kansas if given the chance.
              I'm sure Wichita St. will give Marshall at least close to a comparable amount of money when it comes time for him to move on. I understand there are dream jobs out there, but why leave a school with such a rabid fan base, and a team that is in the process of becoming a consistent mid-major power? Sometimes money is not the only thing that should be the basis for a decision.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                because it's aiming really, really low - kinda like wanting to be Towson

                That doesn't make any sense. Being most improved is aiming really low?

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                • #38
                  you said "one of the most.." as in 5th most improved - and I think that's aiming really low ..I want to win championships

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                  • #39
                    I've enjoyed watching this team so far this season, much more so than I would have guessed. I still think a .500 record isn't out of question, with 8ish valley wins and maybe a Friday game. Staying out of Thursday would be a huge improvement in itself.
                    WE WANT HEEMSKERK!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      you said "one of the most.." as in 5th most improved - and I think that's aiming really low ..I want to win championships

                      How is that aiming low? That doesn't make sense. If BU wins the MVC title next year (for the first time in a long while), they would be listed again **** near at the top of the list. The year after that, probably not.

                      I just don't see how you can spin this into a negative thing. The past has happened, and there is no way to change last seasons record.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        you said "one of the most.." as in 5th most improved - and I think that's aiming really low ..I want to win championships
                        Funny you a mention this because I don't recall a championship being won in the JL era. Yet a coaching change was not needed

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sportsnut2 View Post
                          Funny you a mention this because I don't recall a championship being won in the JL era. Yet a coaching change was not needed
                          Again, another shot at Jim Les. What a surprise.

                          It just seems like it would be more intelligent for fans and the cheerleaders at the newspaper to wait until we are actually back to where we were before we start celebrating how much better we are.
                          102 wins in 5 years before the injury year, and a memorable Sweet 16 season.
                          I know you are ecstatic to be rid of Jim Les, but we are a long way from where we can celebrate.

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                          • #43
                            I never said I was "ecstatic" he's gone. I like him, but thought a change was needed. My response was to those who want championships, which we never got with him, but didn't think a change was necessary. Not a shot at JL, just the irony of what was stated about the championships.

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                            • #44
                              102 wins out of how many games in those 5 seasons? Also, in which of those 5 seasons did Bradley get closer to winning an MVC championship. The goal is either to be great or good enough. Clearly, some folks were ok with good enough, because to your point, Jim arguably did a good enough job. Others (like me) were not. When in 9 years you never finish higher than 4th place, it's tough to argue that the program was moving toward winning championships. That's really all it is. For most, I don't think it's anything more malicious.

                              On a side note, in total disclosure, I had a personal encounter with Jim that left a bad taste in my mouth and made me think less of him as a person, but in no way did it effect my feelings toward the job he was doing. As a matter of fact, I admired him greatly as a player at Bradley.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                I get the idea that some people are fully satisfied because "we are improved in our conference record"...

                                I root for our team to win every game and I want to compete to be the guys at the top of the league...


                                Not me - I firmly believe we have the talent and ability to compete for at least 4th or 5th and I want even better...
                                Hmm those are some interesting statements, but according to previous posts by people we are never ever going to be back to where we were when a change was made. But now you want to compete to be at the top of the league when we were nowhere close to doing that before a change was made? But yeah, we didnt need anything to change..... Yeah, that makes alot of sense....

                                Heck Bradley never finished higher than 4th with 3+ all-MVC calliber players on the freaking team! Multiple times at that!!!

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