How surprised?

[Beninator]

Thanks DC. His thoughts, syntax and writing style just seems so familiar... I really thought he was a friend of mine... Back from the dead, if you will.

That's odd, I had the same thought. This kind of reminds me of a TV show back in the day.....

[aggieman]

That's odd, I had the same thought. This kind of reminds me of a TV show back in the day.....

I am as real as the fallout that IS happening. Sorry to disappoint, boys.

[Beninator]

I am as real as the fallout that IS happening. Sorry to disappoint, boys.

ok.. I guess some people don't want to look up our record to see a Bradley team that is 4-3 in conference play and 12-7 overall. Some people see fallout, I have seen progress this year. To each their own I guess.

[lefty]

ok.. I guess some people don't want to look up our record to see a Bradley team that is 4-3 in conference play and 12-7 overall. Some people see fallout, I have seen progress this year. To each their own I guess.

When people have an agenda the facts don't matter

[Da Coach]

ok.. I guess some people don't want to look up our record to see a Bradley team that is 4-3 in conference play and 12-7 overall. Some people see fallout, I have seen progress this year. To each their own I guess.

If we are comparing this year to last year, yes, we are better. But if we are comparing where this program is at now compared with prior to the coaching change, we are not even close yet.

I'll ask the same question I have asked a couple others, and nobody seems willing to answer- which one of our wins is the best win in your opinion?
I think some people are smart enough to see past the simplicity of just reading wins and losses in a season when we played one of the weakest schedules we have played in decades.
Even the MVC is weaker this season than in most years since 2000, and the only teams we have beaten so far are the 3 worst teams- Missouri State (RPI 245), Drake (RPI 166), and SIU twice (RPI 197).
Maybe some people are celebrating that improvement, but I think the thousands of missing fans are waiting to see us beat better teams.

[sportsnut2]

If we are comparing this year to last year, yes, we are better. But if we are comparing where this program is at now compared with prior to the coaching change, we are not even close yet.

I'll ask the same question I have asked a couple others, and nobody seems willing to answer- which one of our wins is the best win in your opinion?
I think some people are smart enough to see past the simplicity of just reading wins and losses in a season when we played one of the weakest schedules we have played in decades.
Even the MVC is weaker this season than in most years since 2000, and the only teams we have beaten so far are the 3 worst teams- Missouri State (RPI 245), Drake (RPI 166), and SIU twice (RPI 197).
Maybe some people are celebrating that improvement, but I think the thousands of missing fans are waiting to see us beat better teams.

How is 12-7 thus far not better than JL last year where he left us?

By the way..... The same fallout could be talked about when Mo was fired. With Granger who knows how good we could have been

[Da Coach]

How is 12-7 thus far not better than JL last year where he left us?

By the way..... The same fallout could be talked about when Mo was fired. With Granger who knows how good we could have been

Bradley played a much tougher schedule in 2010-2011 (SOS 145 vs. 242 this year), plus you would like to ignore the fact that JL's top 2 players were not available to him that year. He still won 12 games. How many games would Bradley have won this year without Will and Walt?

I find it funny that some of the same fans that complained and were unhappy with 20+ win seasons 4 years in a row, and upper half MVC finishes every year, are now giddy about beating the bottom dwellers in the MVC by the narrowest of margins.

Will someone answer the question- who have we beaten this year? What win are you most proud of?

[lefty]

Bradley played a much tougher schedule in 2010-2011 (SOS 145 vs. 242 this year), plus you would like to ignore the fact that JL's top 2 players were not available to him that year. He still won 12 games. How many games would Bradley have won this year without Will and Walt?

I find it funny that some of the same fans that complained and were unhappy with 20+ win seasons 4 years in a row, and upper half MVC finishes every year, are now giddy about beating the bottom dwellers in the MVC by the narrowest of margins.

Will someone answer the question- who have we beaten this year? What win are you most proud of?

I'm proud of all the wins. I don't know that anyone is giddy. Some think we are on the right track but obviously you and others don't That's fine. Everyone is waiting to see how it all turns out so they can say I told you so

[Beninator]

Bradley played a much tougher schedule in 2010-2011 (SOS 145 vs. 242 this year), plus you would like to ignore the fact that JL's top 2 players were not available to him that year. He still won 12 games. How many games would Bradley have won this year without Will and Walt?

I find it funny that some of the same fans that complained and were unhappy with 20+ win seasons 4 years in a row, and upper half MVC finishes every year, are now giddy about beating the bottom dwellers in the MVC by the narrowest of margins.

Will someone answer the question- who have we beaten this year? What win are you most proud of?

You know... I liked JL. I even wanted to see JL given one more year here to see what could be done with the recruits to go along with the rest of the team we had. But, I was getting sick of seeing us run the archaic weave, running out on the floor a 3,4, or even a 5 guard offense and wonder why we couldn't rebound, sitting JP during long stretches in the second half of the UNI game where we could have used him, and really tired of seeing JL pick up technical fouls towards the end of a game in situations that killed any chance for us to win! When during the JL era did we have an immediate contribution from a JUCO player? It didn't happen very often after the Sweet 16 season. We have no doubt played a softer schedule and I have no problem with that. But, remember, two years ago we lost to QUINCY in a pre season game. Let's move forward and embrace the improvement that we have noticed since last year.

[Da Coach]

I'm proud of all the wins. I don't know that anyone is giddy. Some think we are on the right track but obviously you and others don't That's fine. Everyone is waiting to see how it all turns out so they can say I told you so

Lefty, please don't state my opinions for me. I am happy to see the improvement we have seen. But to suggest that we are vastly improved just because of the number of wins is shortsighted, would you agree? And to compare this year with last year and imply or state that this shows the improvement over Jim Les is silly. Jim Les was not here last year.

[Braves4Life]

Lefty, please don't state my opinions for me. I am happy to see the improvement we have seen. But to suggest that we are vastly improved just because of the number of wins is shortsighted, would you agree? And to compare this year with last year and imply or state that this shows the improvement over Jim Les is silly. Jim Les was not here last year.

See Beninator's post above. Ben's a wise, wise man!

[JMM28]

All of the wins this year are good. They also are much better than getting beat by D2 exhibition schools.

The team has shown improvement. Players have developed. Anyone that can't see that doesn't know much about the game of basketball. I can't wait to see Geno free up a couple of these wasted schollys and get some more talent in here.

[Da Coach]

I have no gripe with anyone who believes that. And I am fine with the direction we are now headed. But there are a lot of people who did not think a change needed to be made. Thousands of those people have apparently sworn off Bradley basketball judging from the lack of attendance this season. That unfortunately is part of the fallout.
If it takes 4 or 5 years to get back to where we were, will that have been worth it?

[Da Coach]

All of the wins this year are good. They also are much better than getting beat by D2 exhibition schools.

Last time I looked, those exhibition games were just that. Exhibitions. They do not count.
And losing to Portland was not much different.

[lake Camelot]

I have no gripe with anyone who believes that. And I am fine with the direction we are now headed. But there are a lot of people who did not think a change needed to be made.

If you had stopped there I would have said fine. But the rest I have to say I don't agree. I think attendance will be back up as soon as we win consistently.

And as far as 4 or 5 years to get back were we were. I think we are at or above were we were. And it isn't were I want to be. We need to add at least a couple more T Pickett level players so we can compete at the top level of the Valley.