Final: Bradley 53 Northern Iowa 84

[real fan]

When Geno gets the right players in his system we will be good, we are headed in the right direction as we have some good recruits coming in to go with the 2 transfers that are already here, I expect to see a better team next season and a really good team the season after, it takes time to rebuild a program.

[JMM28]

Good news everyone. Whether you lose by 1 or 41, it still only counts as one loss.

[real fan]

Agreed with everything except your last point. Without Nate and especially JP, this team would have about 3 or 4 fewer wins by now. They compete and play their hearts out, and they would both be important pieces even on teams with better size and shooting. So while we may not be challenging for titles right now, you can't underestimate the importance of players like these.

Not saying they are not important to this team , saying they are not good enough players to compete for championships ,J.P. ranks at the bottom as far as centers go in the Valley and Nate has not shown much yet but I hope he gets much better and can contribute off the bench.

[real fan]

Good news everyone. Whether you lose by 1 or 41, it still only counts as one loss.

Good point.

[tornado]

Good news everyone. Whether you lose by 1 or 41, it still only counts as one loss.

amen - and as was conveniently discovered by Scarlett O'Hara - tomorrow is another day..

[Chico]

Alot of people here have been Bradley fans for a long time. I'm in my 6th decade but that doesn't make me any better or worse fan than anyone else. Just getting older. It's just clear that some have a different standard for criticism than they have had in the past. And that's fine. I just wish everyone would be honest about it. That goes for people on both sides of the direction discussion by the way.

Nobody is comparing fans. Criticism is criticism and after today criticism is deserved. I' m being honest. Don't ever remember being as embarrassed as I was today watching the Braves.

[Bravesfan]

Not saying they are not important to this team , saying they are not good enough players to compete for championships ,J.P. ranks at the bottom as far as centers go in the Valley and Nate has not shown much yet but I hope he gets much better and can contribute off the bench.

Well I'm saying they could play on championship teams, but as bench players who can contribute important minutes when the starters are resting. Obviously if a team has no depth, they won't go far. But JP and Nate can provide that, and hopefully with Nate, he will get better.

[tornado]

Nobody is comparing fans. Criticism is criticism and after today criticism is deserved. I' m being honest. Don't ever remember being as embarrassed as I was today watching the Braves.

this sentiment was amply stated and repeated by Dave & Chad Kleine -- hardly takes a genius for an observer to notice Bradley played one of the worst games we've ever played

[78Brave]

Bradley played very poorly today. Coaches and players should take responsibility and I'm sure they will. I've seen them play a few bad games over years. This team wasn't ready to compete for a national championship when they played Michigan close and they're not ready to drop to DIII after todays game. There are better days ahead.

[Chico]

Don't see anyone blaming Geno. I can't wait until he gets his players on board. But, remember, we can't blame missing players or injuries either.

[DeltaBrave03]

hmmm....looks like they didn't get their facts straight

BTW - I am still proud of our guys - still trying to fight back - Jake has 9, DE has 8 and starting to hit jumpers..
The two seniors are 6-10 and have virtually all our FTs

Those aren't facts, those are two differing opinions.

[Chico]

Those aren't facts, those are two differing opinions.

+1, but I value Geno's a little more.

[TheAsianSensation]

Very concerned.

The real question: do we let the last 2 games define us, or do we work to make them an anomaly? We were absolutely pointed in the right direction. Let's find that direction again before we lose it further.

All the chicken littles who panicked today and thought the sky was falling needs to maintain perspective of the overall season.

[Chico]

Very concerned.

The real question: do we let the last 2 games define us, or do we work to make them an anomaly? We were absolutely pointed in the right direction. Let's find that direction again before we lose it further.

All the chicken littles who panicked today and thought the sky was falling needs to maintain perspective of the overall season.

Most everyone on here wants the team to find that direction again. But if I'm a chicken little, so be it.

[Bravesfan]

Very concerned.

The real question: do we let the last 2 games define us, or do we work to make them an anomaly? We were absolutely pointed in the right direction. Let's find that direction again before we lose it further.

All the chicken littles who panicked today and thought the sky was falling needs to maintain perspective of the overall season.

Totally agree, and a very sensible response TAS. However, I love the occasional posts after a tough loss that make us all out to be "depressed" after games like this.

As an example of this, there was an earlier post today that looks like it was recently removed (and rightfully so) that illustrates this point. I won't name the poster and what was said, but for anyone who is thinking of doing this, please stop with the "keep the faith" posts after games like this that make it sound like we are all ready to jump off the ledge! We are all Bradley basketball fans, but at the same time Bradley basketball is just one small part of our lives. We don't spend three to four days in a dark room sulking after a tough loss. I'm sure there may be one or two people who lurk around here that act like that, but I would like to believe the vast majority of us have far more important things in our lives to worry about rather than how good or bad our team is. We also all know that this program will eventually get better, but we don't need people talking to us like five year olds to get that point across.

I consider myself a religious person, but at the same time I don't need people telling me to "keep my chin up" like I don't know what is going on regarding the team. So kudos to DC and the other moderators who keep things civil around here. Let's use these types of games as a starting point for sensible, intelligent discussions about how this team can get better in the future, rather than using them to post comments that talk down to people.