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  • ISU Player Suspended

    According to John Goodman CBS:

    Illinois State coach Dan Muller has suspended senior guard Tyler Brown indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the team.

    I will be interested to see what develops out of this.

  • #2
    These things are never good. Does anyone know if players are given a yearly orientation on what is expected from them? These kids are given a great opportunity and it would be nice that they are reminded and can hear from someone who has blown theirs.
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    • #3
      I have heard rumors about this and other player issues developing.

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      • #4
        BU dodged a bullet not getting that guy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          I have heard rumors about this and other player issues developing.
          Do tell

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          • #6
            After Brown's performances the past two games, I was wondering if something was brewing...
            Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

            Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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            • #7
              Journal star....

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              • #8
                Article from the Bloomington Pantagraph-


                However, when reached later Muller said there is “a chance” Brown could be playing Saturday when struggling ISU faces Drake at 7:05 p.m. at Redbird Arena.
                “That is to be determined,” said Muller...
                Muller said Brown will not practice today, but could possibly return on Friday.


                That is strange. "Indefinite suspension for conduct detrimental to the team", yet he might miss 1 practice, return the next day, and play Saturday and not miss a single game.

                That's not a suspension. That's a vacation.

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                • #9
                  it's called .....suspension-SIU style

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    it's called .....suspension-SIU style
                    Throwing stones in a glass house... He likely isn't facing felony charges for whatever caused the suspension.
                    "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DeltaBrave03 View Post
                      Throwing stones in a glass house... He likely isn't facing felony charges for whatever caused the suspension.
                      That would be correct, considering there is no legal issue involved...

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                      • #12
                        I am not sure the stones/glass house comparison is logical. The only Bradley player who is being disciplined was suspended appropriately- already 3 games, and likely much more. ISU, as well as SIU, have had a history of going lightly on players with serious legal issues in the past.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DeltaBrave03 View Post
                          Throwing stones in a glass house... He likely isn't facing felony charges for whatever caused the suspension.
                          the stones are being fairly thrown at the meaningless "suspensions" that some coaches hand out...
                          thus no stone to throw at BU as the discipline is at least solid and consistent here...

                          -Brandon Sampay was "immediately and indefinitely suspended" by Jank for DUI and underage drinking and was filmed the next morning in practice then never missed a single game or exhibition...

                          -but SIU is infamous for all their guys and their violations then playing the very next day...
                          Ryan Hare spent the whole day once in court for his underage drinking charges, then headed to the arena and played key minutes in the game a few hours later...and never did face any discipline at all.
                          BTW- it's no coincidence that he proceeded to be a repeat violator and still is..
                          SIU is notiorious for light discipline...one of their players once had a marijuana arrest
                          and the player still was never disciplined until the whole thing was being discussed on the message boards months later, then got into the press..

                          ..and I have no problem with these kids being given a 2nd, 3rd chance or whatever - but have an athletic code, follow it, and stick with at least SOME visible suspension
                          so the kid and others see that you're serious about discipline...



                          Originally posted by Nacho View Post
                          That would be correct, considering there is no legal issue involved...
                          well - marginally there is....Brown's bond from his battery case is still being held as he has yet to serve out his punishment - and won't be off supervision 'til end of June 2013..
                          if whatever he has done as his violation is seen by the judge as troubling - he could have his supervision revoked...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            well - marginally there is....Brown's bond from his battery case is still being held as he has yet to serve out his punishment - and won't be off supervision 'til end of June 2013..
                            if whatever he has done as his violation is seen by the judge as troubling - he could have his supervision revoked...
                            If it's not a legal issue, why would a judge have anything to do with it? And I agree whole-heartedly about Sampay/Jank suspension (lack there of). But he is gone now and not relevant to the conversation IMO.

                            An in-house suspension for non-legal issues is alot different then a suspension for legal issues. Muller has had one of each. Geoffery Allen is still suspended indefinitely, awaiting the court system to play out (I assume)- so I don't see how he could handle that any different/better. When no facts are out about a non-legal suspension, I am not sure how a coach can be criticized when no one knows what the "conduct" was.

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                            • #15
                              I didn't realize Bradley has never suspended players for exhibition games, nor allowed a player's accused of a felony to practice within of being released from jail. I'm also glad our coaches dole out punishment without the president of the university feeling the need to step in and lay down a legitimate punishment.

                              I know I'll get labeled anti BU or whatever you choose, but it just gets old throwing stones while we have our own issues to deal with in peoria.
                              "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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