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  • It's just an eventuality, next year or the following.. Irrespective of CU's departure date, Elgin better be on the phone talking to 2 or 3 schools now. Get them in by Fall 2013 rather than waiting for the departure by Creighton and eventually WSU.

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    • Originally posted by stevebu91 View Post
      It's just an eventuality, next year or the following.. Irrespective of CU's departure date, Elgin better be on the phone talking to 2 or 3 schools now. Get them in by Fall 2013 rather than waiting for the departure by Creighton and eventually WSU.
      If the MVC could get all three for 13-14, would the league kick Creighton to the curb?

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      • Originally posted by Old Coach View Post
        If the MVC could get all three for 13-14, would the league kick Creighton to the curb?
        They'd be crazy to do that. They buy half the Arch Madness tickets!

        This is getting ridiculous. It took the Catholics 2 days to select a pope and they've been debating the new basketball membership how long?
        BRADLEY BASKETBALL
        -2 NCAA Title Games
        -3 NCAA Elite Eights
        -4 NCAA Sweet 16s
        -4 NIT Championships

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        • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          I hear Bradley has done some work to try to get affiliated with this Catholic 7,

          ...BTW, the Georgetown AD Lee Reed, who was a star guard at Cleveland State played for 1 1/2 years in the same backcourt as Jim Les. I understand they remain close friends.
          It appears Lou Reed, the head guy in the new Big East - is a fan of Coach Les -

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          • Originally posted by tornado View Post
            It appears Lou Reed, the head guy in the new Big East - is a fan of Coach Les -
            https://twitter.com/HoyasAD/status/373051118324305920
            Lou Reed is not the head guy in the Big East. He is the athletic director at Georgetown. That puts him around the #30 guy in the new big east.

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            • Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
              Lou Reed is not the head guy in the Big East. He is the athletic director at Georgetown. That puts him around the #30 guy in the new big east.
              As long as we are nitpicking and correcting mistakes, his name is Lee Reed, not Lou Reed.

              The official General news stories archives for the Georgetown University Hoyas

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              • don't expect agreement - but 1st - I simply refer to my post from February 2013 that pretty much confirms Reed was the leader among all the AD's in the formation of the new Big East:



                ...it was Georgetown who led the seven Big East schools to form a new conference, and it was LEE REED who made the first announcement of the changes back in December 2012..
                he was the ONLY Athletic Director present at the initial news conference announcing the formation of the new conference.


                When the final decision was agreed among the "Catholic Seven" - it was from Reed's own office that the release was sent to media outlets.
                The media in every other market besides Washington, DC - ran with Reed's comments as tho he was official spokesperson..
                The seven Big East schools that don’t play FBS football are leaving behind the conference many of them founded to build a league focused on basketball. The presidents of the seven schools made the announcement Saturday. The seven schools leaving are Georgetown, St. John’s, Villanova, DePaul, Marquette, Seton Hall, and Providence.


                It was Reed who was the driving force all the way until the new schools named a Commissioner in June 2013. The other schools who were courted such as Louisville, Creighton, etc...all deferred to Reed when the press asked for statements...



                If you can name 29 other people more important to and more instrumental in the new league, then be my guest...I actually cannot think of even one such person.


                BTW - even though it was all done behind closed doors - it was rumored that Bradley did present BU as a potential new member for the new Big East.

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                • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  BTW - even though it was all done behind closed doors - it was rumored that Bradley did present BU as a potential new member for the new Big East.
                  In other news, I attempted to contact Kate Upton letting her know I would divorce my wife for her.

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                  • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    don't expect agreement - but 1st - I simply refer to my post from February 2013 that pretty much confirms Reed was the leader among all the AD's in the formation of the new Big East:



                    ...it was Georgetown who led the seven Big East schools to form a new conference, and it was LEE REED who made the first announcement of the changes back in December 2012..
                    he was the ONLY Athletic Director present at the initial news conference announcing the formation of the new conference.


                    When the final decision was agreed among the "Catholic Seven" - it was from Reed's own office that the release was sent to media outlets.
                    The media in every other market besides Washington, DC - ran with Reed's comments as tho he was official spokesperson..
                    The seven Big East schools that don’t play FBS football are leaving behind the conference many of them founded to build a league focused on basketball. The presidents of the seven schools made the announcement Saturday. The seven schools leaving are Georgetown, St. John’s, Villanova, DePaul, Marquette, Seton Hall, and Providence.


                    It was Reed who was the driving force all the way until the new schools named a Commissioner in June 2013. The other schools who were courted such as Louisville, Creighton, etc...all deferred to Reed when the press asked for statements...



                    If you can name 29 other people more important to and more instrumental in the new league, then be my guest...I actually cannot think of even one such person.


                    BTW - even though it was all done behind closed doors - it was rumored that Bradley did present BU as a potential new member for the new Big East.
                    I am not one to put words in other peoples' mouths, but I am really struggling to figure out why you would be arguing this.

                    1 - The Georgetown AD is a fan of Jim Les.

                    Okay, great! I am a fan of Jim Les too. He was a great player, and an okay coach. He loved Bradley. He was nice the couple times I met him.

                    2 - Bradley was interested in joining the new Big East.

                    Yes, as were almost all other midwestern and eastern private, basketball-focused schools.

                    3 - The Georgetown AD is a big shot in the NBE.

                    Um, not sure why you can say that. I've read plenty and have yet to hear that he has any special pull.


                    Judging by your comments, I would infer that you're suggesting that if Bradley still had Jim Les, we would be in the new Big East. As I said, I don't like to put words in other peoples' mouths, so if I'm wrong, and you don't believe that, please correct me. I apologize in advance.

                    If, however, you are implying that, well, I vociferously disagree with you to the point that I think the logic you're presenting is strained at best, and ludicrous at worst. One AD, even if he is somehow a top dog (which we have nothing but conjecture to suggest) simply lacks that kind of pull. Furthermore, to suggest that he would value a personal friendship to the point that he would risk his career and power on behalf of a coach for whom he is "a fan" is an insult to his legitimacy, integrity, and brain power.

                    Then again, if I am completely misreading your point, I do apologize.

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                    • I think I made my main point about as clear as I could ...
                      ..that Bradley, with several pretty bad years in a row, playing before smaller and smaller crowds, in a very small market BE-wise, moving some games into a 4K arena, and not being a Catholic school -
                      already had an extremely slim chance of impressing the Big East people enough to get an invite to their new conference...but they did try....

                      ...but the rest of the story - the story that Dave Reynolds reported on - dropped our chances even further.
                      It is as it is.

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                      • Xavier Insider Andy MacWilliams sits down with Xavier Athletic Director Greg Christopher for September's monthly update. MacWilliams and Christopher discuss ...


                        That should be queued up to the correct spot. If not, its the 6:35 mark of the video where the AD at Xavier discusses how everything regarding expansion is made at the presidential level.

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                        • Final decisions and votes come from the university presidents, but the majority of the work and communication the leads to a major conference realignment like this is not done by the presidents themselves.

                          Also, our AD has spoken openly to many about Bradley's efforts to reach out to the main players in the new Big East, and the fact that we were rejected summarily.

                          Btw, Big East officials are already talking about expansion, and naming expansion candidates, and they do not include Bradley.
                          Even though conference expansion has slowed since April when every ACC school signed an agreement tying them to the league through 2027, the trickle-down effect from this wave of realignment probably isn't fully over. New Xavier athletic director Greg Christopher … Continue reading

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                          • He mentions
                            Saint Louis
                            Dayton
                            Richmond
                            VCU

                            but if Bradley can perform well, make runs in the NCAA Tourney, then within a couple years we could be back on that list -- I hope we can get it done...

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                            • Maybe when the Big East expands from 24 teams to 36.

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                              • Perhaps a package deal, BU and UC-D, in an expanded Big East?

                                Sigh...

                                If only BU's MVC W-L record was as good as JL's fund raising, connections, coaching and recruiting...

                                BU would now have a perpetually full arena, lots of supporters, lots of D-1 major talent and be part of the Big East, or,
                                the Catholic 7...

                                Sigh...
                                BUilding for the Future

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