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- the beat writer for Creighton is already writing columns about Creighton jumping to a bigger conference -
as if it IS going to happen - just a matter of where and when..
Full disclosure, I'm a native of Louisville and have been a fan all my life. But Louisville has a pretty solid program across all sports. Louisville has some of the best facilities in the country, as well as a substantial budget - the UofL Athletics budget surpasses every team in the ACC. It is hard to make an argument that Maryland is stronger in 'secondary sports' when they are actively shutting down scholarship sports programs because of funding issues (they cut 7 scholarship sports recently). As well, they are planning to save money further by shutting down lacrosse when they enter the Big Ten. They left the ACC because of financial problems, so the financial power of underarmor as a bargaining chip doesn't seem all that impressive. I understand that UnderArmor wants maryland to be their "Oregon", the problem is that Oregon is actually good at football.
Financially, and on of the field performance as of late in target sports, both point to Louisville as an upgrade.
But i'm biased.
OK I'm not going to argue with you on this Where did you read about Maryland shutting down their lacrosse program? I'd be extremely surprised if they did. Also Maryland use to be very good in football and the recruiting base is there but they need a coach that can recruit. I wish they would have picked up Leach when they had a chance.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
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OK I'm not going to argue with you on this Where did you read about Maryland shutting down their lacrosse program? I'd be extremely surprised if they did. Also Maryland use to be very good in football and the recruiting base is there but they need a coach that can recruit. I wish they would have picked up Leach when they had a chance.
I don't see anyway at this point that Maryland shuts down their lacrosse program. The previous AD at Maryland basically pulled accounting schemes that forced them into the hole to cut some sports. For instance, she sold the naming rights to the basketball arena for 25 years, but used up the money in 5 years.
However, lacrosse is one of the major non-revenue sports for Maryland (along with soccer), so don't see that at the top of the chopping block.
Maryland is not shutting down its lacrosse program. Please do not spread false information. Maryland is actually going to re-instate sports as a result of moving to the B1G and getting a larger revenue base.
Also, I keep reading about people saying how great Louisville is for the ACC. The Baltimore-Washington area is one of the top media markets in the country. Louisville is not even in the top 50. That is what this is all about, not win-loss records. The ACC is upset to see Maryland go, and anyone who says otherwise is spinning facts.
Maryland also joins the Committee on Institutional Cooperation, an academic consortium composed of the Big Ten??™s now 12 schools and the University of Chicago. The ACC has no such organization.
The ACC is upset to see Maryland go, and anyone who says otherwise is spinning facts.
The ACC leadership may be sad to see Maryland go (because of the money they bring to the table) but I can tell you that the average ACC fan is happy to see Louisville joining the ACC. Remember, the ACC is a basketball conference first and foremost and the ACC Fan sees Louisville as a better basketball program than Maryland.
The ACC leadership may be sad to see Maryland go (because of the money they bring to the table) but I can tell you that the average ACC fan is happy to see Louisville joining the ACC. Remember, the ACC is a basketball conference first and foremost and the ACC Fan sees Louisville as a better basketball program than Maryland.
Louisville is also a much better football program.
"the ACC Fan sees Louisville as a better basketball program than Maryland."
"Louisville is also a much better football program."
I strongly disagree with both of these statements.
Over time, Maryland's basketball program is at least on the same tier as Louisville's, if not better. Maryland can point to a national championship in 2002, and the Gary Williams era is only two years gone. There have been two rocky years, but the team still was competitive. And looking at the Maryland basketball program today, and it is on a very high trajectory. Mark Turgeon is a great coach and a great recruiter. Since the addition of Dez Wells (transfer from Xavier), ESPN projects Maryland to finish second in the league. Alex Len is projected as a lottery pick.
Louisville might be ranked higher right now. But it is not a "better basketball program." The average ACC fan knows and understands all of this.
Moreover, if you look historically--beyond just the last two years--Maryland's football program is far superior to Louisville's. Not even close. Yes, there have been two very down years under Randy Edsall. But the last recruiting class was top notch. Louisville's football wins have been in the Big East.
Louisville football is 10-2 this year and ranked #18 by the USA Today coaches poll, #22 in the AP media poll, and #21 by the BCS rankings. They also beat North Carolina, the 3rd best team in the ACC.
Maryland football is 4-8, and is and nowhere close to being ranked anywhere. Only 1 of the 12 ACC teams has a worse record than Maryland.
It's not even close- Louisville is much better than Maryland.
"Louisville football is 10-2 this year and ranked #18 by the USA Today coaches poll, #22 in the AP media poll, and #21 by the BCS rankings. They also beat North Carolina, the 3rd best team in the ACC.
Maryland football is 4-8, and is and nowhere close to being ranked anywhere. Only 1 of the 12 ACC teams has a worse record than Maryland.
It's not even close- Louisville is much better than Maryland."
You didn't even read my email. If you want to say that Louisville is ranked higher right now, then that is correct. But you are errant to say that Louisville has better programs in either sport. There is a big difference between those two statements.
I was referring to the present. Louisville's basketball program has always been on par with Maryland's basketball, but just in recent years has UL football been a consistent national power. I believe that has a lot to do with the ACC's attraction to Louisville. A decade ago, the ACC would not have had any interest in Louisville.
I was referring to the present. Louisville's basketball program has always been on par with Maryland's basketball, but just in recent years has UL football been a consistent national power. I believe that has a lot to do with the ACC's attraction to Louisville. A decade ago, the ACC would not have had any interest in Louisville.
Before this season in football, Louisville in the past five years has gone 7-6, 7-6, 4-8, 5-7 & 6-6. They were strong before then for four years when they had Bobby Petrino, but I don't think ACC was basing Louisville as a strong football team from just this year. Maryland struggled this year, but they also lost four QBs to season ending injuries and were playing a linebacker at QB for several games.
Louisville was the best option for the ACC to grab a football team (with the other options being UConn - which was not even in FBS just over a decade ago - and Cincinnati).
Louisville can't be called a national power in football by any means. But they're competent enough, which is all the ACC needs.
The ACC losing an original member, it may only be symbolic, but that's the biggest deal of all. Louisville can't replace tradition and rivalries. I don't think the ACC will have much of a financial disadvantage as a result of this - just symbolic.
Louisville can't be called a national power in football by any means. But they're competent enough, which is all the ACC needs.
The ACC losing an original member, it may only be symbolic, but that's the biggest deal of all. Louisville can't replace tradition and rivalries. I don't think the ACC will have much of a financial disadvantage as a result of this - just symbolic.
I would have to believe the financial impact is greater then anything else. The Balto/DC metro area is much bigger and richer then Louisville. There's also the recruiting and exposure aspect to the area. The real problem for the ACC in economic terms is that they have four schools within the same state which does not help them in a TV deal.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
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Where did you read about Maryland shutting down their lacrosse program? I'd be extremely surprised if they did. Also Maryland use to be very good in football and the recruiting base is there but they need a coach that can recruit. I wish they would have picked up Leach when they had a chance.
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