Final Score: Texas Pan-American 61 Bradley 78

[JMM28]

BTW, one more question about the Monday night game and the honoring of Anthony Parker into the Bradley Athletics Hall of Fame.

Does anyone know why Anthony was indicted into the BU Hall of Fame, a well deserved honor, but the administration did not retire his jersey or number? We have a redshirt player (Omari Grier) who was just assigned the #24 jersey.

I believe someone of his success and stature and character deserves to have his jersey number retired as well!

I agree with you here, but there have been #24's since AP stopped playing. Warren, Tucker, Jerome Robinson all wore the number 24.

Is the retired jersey limited to All Americans? I don't recall AP winning All America honors, but easily would have had he been healthy that year. Perhaps an exception should be made down the road.

Everyone besides Hawk was retired way after their playing days, with a lot of those numbers having been used since their leaving Bradley.

[Da Coach]

I agree with you here, but there have been #24's since AP stopped playing. Warren, Tucker, Jerome Robinson all wore the number 24.

Is the retired jersey limited to All Americans? I don't recall AP winning All America honors, but easily would have had he been healthy that year. Perhaps an exception should be made down the road.

Everyone besides Hawk was retired way after their playing days, with a lot of those numbers having been used since their leaving Bradley.

Anthony Parker was an Honorable Mention All American selection; a 1st round NBA pick; and Player of the Year in the MVC as a junior (1996), 1st team All MVC in both 1996 & 1997, averaged over 9 ppg over his 9 year NBA career, and was the Player of the Year in Europe at least twice, and won the NBA League Sportsmanship award in 2007. That should be enough for the honor, IMO.

http://articles.philly.com/1997-06-2...ion-billy-king

Here are some of his Euroleague accomplishments-
3?— European Champion
1x FIBA SuproLeague (2001)
2x ULEB Euroleague (2004–2005)
2?— Euroleague MVP (2005–2006)
Euroleague Final Four MVP (2004)
2?— All-Euroleague First Team (2005–2006)
Euroleague 2001–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest Euroleague Contributors (2008 )
Israeli League MVP (2004)

[Braves4Life]

OK... I'm going off topic here... and I'm not too proud to beg... There was a fine, kind poster from this board who was gracious enough to send me some BU Schedule Posters that were given away at a prior game.

Now... yes NOW, 'Ol Braves4Life is on his knees begging for an XL Anthony Parker T-shirt from the other night. And, I'm even willing to go on a diet and lose weight if all anyone has is a Large. Can anyone help a brotha out?

[Braves4Life]

BradleyFans are the greatest! Thank you, thank you, thank you once again!!!!!

[KMart]

I agree with the first part of your statement. I know a number of die-hard fans who skipped this game, more out of protest to the idea of holding one game out of the season ticket package and charging another $20 per ticket for it.
But holding extra tickets for students who didn't show up had little to do with the low attendance. According to Dave Reynolds' article this morning, 1,200 tickets were set aside for students, and well less than half that number showed up (I think it was even less than 25%). There were still a ton of tickets available to the public, so holding tickets for students (and they were the worst seats, the ones in the south corner sections) would not have caused anyone to be unable to attend the game. Plus, those student tickets would have been made available to the general public if that was necessary, which it wasn't.

Alright. I didn't really know what the numbers were. Thanks for clarifying. According to a bunch of Greek students, they did an awful job advertising the game to them, resulting in a smaller student turnout than they hoped. A couple professors also commented on the game was poorly advertised compared to last years game. That's what I heard from word of mouth.

[AZ BU Fan]

Couldn't get to listen to the game, and, have been out of town for a couple days.... GO BU....

Just keep winning and good things will happen to attendance, and, future scheduling future opponents for pre season games.

Go BU

[tornado]

I know it's early but these game still count on RPI and they are definitely not counting very well...
even at 3-0, and even if we win a bunch of these non-con games we're going to have to win the Valley..
In fact the whole Valley has scheduled very poorly with NAIA's and DIII's as well as the High Points, Winthrops, Yale & Delaware State

I know there's time to improve it but we're off to a weak start as a conference...and losses to Buffalo, Detroit...
with our conference RPI already lower than the SWAC & Sun Belt - we're looking at probably one bid

[Braves4Life]

I know it's early but these game still count on RPI and they are definitely not counting very well...
even at 3-0, and even if we win a bunch of these non-con games we're going to have to win the Valley..

Say what? You're acting as if it really even matters tornado; it doesn't. Bradley is still in the "fallout" phase of rebuilding and has NO chance at any kind of postseason bid. We're going to be lucky to finish above .500 and get out of the lower half of the MVC... Remember?

[tornado]

we are playing for something -- and tho virtually nobody expects BU to battle for the top of the league (just like nobody did for Drake back in '07-'08 ) - I am surprised that you have already given up..
I sure haven't - I root for BU to win every single time out and not only want a win but most of the time expect to win.
B4L - we have enough debbie-downers, please quit that group and join those who root for a win every time

[Braves4Life]

B4L - we have enough debbie-downers, please quit that group and join those who root for a win every time

ROFLMAO That's the first time I've ever been accused of being realistic as it relates to Bradley tornado. Seriously, this just made my night... too funny.

Believe it or not, I'm probably one of the few people that thinks Bradley has a chance to finish better than has been predicted. I could actually see this team finishing just slightly over .500 on the year and middle of the Valley pack. Of course, yajusneverno.

[Gary the Gargoyle]

I root for Bradley to win every game too, but it doesn't mean that I actually think they will. I'll really be pulling for them on Tuesday night, but I don't like their chances. I believe that the team will be much better this year, but will stick to my pre-season prediction of 12 wins. Based on that, RPI is completely irrelevant. Now if you were to tell me that RPI carries over from season to season, then I might be concerned.

[AZ BU Fan]

Based on previous year's MVC Regular Season Game Pick Em Contest entries, there is more than one loyal BU Fan on this Forum who roots for BU to win every game, but doesn't predict they will win every game!

Shameless plug for the 2012-13 MVC Regular Season Game Pick Em Contest, coming to BF.com soon!

[TheAsianSensation]

I know it's early but these game still count on RPI and they are definitely not counting very well...
even at 3-0, and even if we win a bunch of these non-con games we're going to have to win the Valley..
In fact the whole Valley has scheduled very poorly with NAIA's and DIII's as well as the High Points, Winthrops, Yale & Delaware State

I know there's time to improve it but we're off to a weak start as a conference...and losses to Buffalo, Detroit...
with our conference RPI already lower than the SWAC & Sun Belt - we're looking at probably one bid

There's so many nonsensical ideas in this post I don't know where to begin.

1) Detroit is actually a quality loss, they'll win the Horizon
2) Looking at conference RPI is absolutely stupid 1 week into the season. Anyways, the SWAC is above us simply because their SoS is insanely high, and the Sun Belt has a similar effect. MVC is listed at 14 right now, and that's completely irrelevant.
3) 3 schools haven't played a D1 opponent yet - so using conference RPI as anything of value is a terrible idea
4) It's better to schedule NAIAs and DIIIs
5) It's one week into the season. Our SoS are SUPPOSED TO BE BAD because when you play 2 or 3 games and win them all, your opponents all have bad records
6) MVC scheduled badly? Creighton put on North Texas and UAB (to be fair, UNT has unexpectedly gone in the tank early). Wichita wins at VCU. ISU wins at Drexel. InSU went to UCLA. EU went to Notre Dame.
7) I frankly think the MVC is off to a fine start. The only real issue is Evansville losing a game to Buffalo they probably should hold serve over, and we did good to get 2 road wins at VCU and Drexel.
8 ) Before the weekend, the MVC was the #1 conference in CRPI. Not lying. #1. Now they're #14. That should show you the system is volatile and not reliable this early. You can't put ANY value into the numbers.

It's absolutely insane to think that this is anything other than a good start for the Valley. Insane.

[tornado]

as usual I have a few opposing opinions..

As I clearly said - I know it is early - and I fully anticipated someone would reply by telling me it's early - so you fulfilled my prophecy but...

1) no loss ever helps your RPI and if you read my comment I never said Detroit was bad or was a bad loss, but it was a loss

2) you may believe as you wish but the RPI currently reflects that the Valley has played a paucity of quality teams and there really aren't a whole lot coming up

3) you must have your clock set way back - as nine MVC teams have played DI games

4) if scheduling bad NAIA's and DIII's is as great as you say then why aren't we doing it and why do only a small percentage of the worst teams in DI do it? It never helps your RPI to beat one of them and even winning probably has it's problems as I am sure the NCAA selection committee knows who you played even if it doesn't help you RPI.

5) if there's no way possible this early to have a good RPI then how come many conferences do? You play quality teams and beat them - it isn't hard to figure.

6) this is a weak year so far as far as Valley scheduling..ISU finally goes to play a BCS-caliber team (Louisville) but several MVC schools still have some real cupcakes.
In the end - whether they admit it or deny it - the NCAA does keep tabs on the RPI and I have to believe they look at it.

[TheAsianSensation]

My prophetic responses below:

1) no loss ever helps your RPI and if you read my comment I never said Detroit was bad or was a bad loss, but it was a loss

Factually incorrect as a loss to a good opponent can boost your SoS to the point that it outweights the actual loss. It is somewhat rare though, but to say no loss can help is wrong

2) you may believe as you wish but the RPI currently reflects that the Valley has played a paucity of quality teams and there really aren't a whole lot coming up

The RPI doesn't reflect that because it's statistically impossible for the RPI to represent something after 10 days of a season

3) you must have your clock set way back - as nine MVC teams have played DI games

my bad

4) if scheduling bad NAIA's and DIII's is as great as you say then why aren't we doing it and why do only a small percentage of the worst teams in DI do it? It never helps your RPI to beat one of them and even winning probably has it's problems as I am sure the NCAA selection committee knows who you played even if it doesn't help you RPI.

I'm not saying it's great, I'm saying it's better than the alternative of playing the SWAC and the like. I'm slowly changing my tune on this - a win never helps you in the RPI, but a win over a SWAC school actually hurts the RPI more than help - the SoS deadweight matters more than the pure value of a win

5) if there's no way possible this early to have a good RPI then how come many conferences do? You play quality teams and beat them - it isn't hard to figure.

The problem is that with the RPI system, it can't tell who the quality teams are yet because there's not enough evidence. The reason some of the bigger names go to the top is the pure winning percentage - winning games against a bunch of cupcakes. The RPI system can't tell if those are cupcakes yet - it will with more evidence.

Playing challenging games actually hurts you early on in the RPI. The season is too young to know when the challenging losses you have are actually good losses yet. So the Valley will naturally rise back up. Same phenomenon with the Mountain West - their conference SoS is in the tank today, but that will shoot up in a hurry.

6) this is a weak year so far as far as Valley scheduling..ISU finally goes to play a BCS-caliber team (Louisville) but several MVC schools still have some real cupcakes.
In the end - whether they admit it or deny it - the NCAA does keep tabs on the RPI and I have to believe they look at it.

We'll know more about Valley scheduling in January. And yes, the NCAA keeps tabs on the RPI. Just not in November. Or December, really.