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[Rusty 54]

We had a historically bad season, and the program is in a historically bad stretch. There needs to be accountability for that, it is the only way we will get back to having success.

If I were TB, I wouldn't want to be blamed for last season either. But the team didn't win. Apparently they weren't showing a lot of effort (my take from the JE diving for loose balls comment), and when I read that the new transfers are working harder than most of the other guys, that speaks to leadership.

[Rusty 54]

Anybody else see Taylor Brown put Dave Reynolds on blast this morning on Twitter? Referring to Dave's comments about Taylor and AT being far from team leaders last year...

"Its an important point.Last year's seniors- Taylor Brown and Anthony Thompson - were far from team leaders. thats how u feel @davereynolds2"

https://twitter.com/taylor3brown/status/266832841709584384

"dont have respect for u or whoever helped u write that or who agree with that bullshxt @davereynolds2 smd"

https://twitter.com/taylor3brown/sta...33092147302400

If "smd" means what google say it means, that TB would tweet it, and to a reporter, says all I need to know about TB's attitude and leadership. Get some class or take the pictures of you in your BU uniform of your twitter.

[tornado]

Wily - you seem to contradict yourself...if the players JL brought in are so bad - then why is everyone all drooly over our current lineup that includes Will, DSE, Jake, Walt, etc....just who brought in 80% of our lineup and production?
..not to mention one more time for the record...JL was not fully allowed to "bring in" who he wanted...

[LittleBrave]

Wily - you seem to contradict yourself...if the players JL brought in are so bad - then why is everyone all drooly over our current lineup that includes Will, DSE, Jake, Walt, etc....just who brought in 80% of our lineup and production?
..not to mention one more time for the record...JL was not fully allowed to "bring in" who he wanted...

I don't get the sense at all that everyone is "drooly" over our lineup, but more excited about the new guys who will be suiting up next year and beyond.

Not related to the lineup...I'm not sure if Jake's comment holds much water, since I witnessed that players were diving after loose balls and picking each other up. Perhaps it will be more of an emphasis this year, along with team cohesion, which is why it was addressed (???)

[JMM28]

If "smd" means what google say it means, that TB would tweet it, and to a reporter, says all I need to know about TB's attitude and leadership. Get some class or take the pictures of you in your BU uniform of your twitter.

The loss of Taylor Brown was addition by subtraction. He was a cancer.

[JMM28]

Wily - you seem to contradict yourself...if the players JL brought in are so bad - then why is everyone all drooly over our current lineup that includes Will, DSE, Jake, Walt, etc....just who brought in 80% of our lineup and production?
..not to mention one more time for the record...JL was not fully allowed to "bring in" who he wanted...

People are "drooly" over the lineup?!

The Geno Ford BU era arrow is pointing up, but I don't see anyone getting their rocks off over this lineup. I do remember some folks getting drooly over superstars like David Collins, Eddren McCain, and Tyrone Cole Scott.

[Da Coach]

The loss of Taylor Brown was addition by subtraction. He was a cancer.

I don't know what you are basing that on. How well did you know Taylor?
I got to know Taylor while he was here, and that is not my opinion. He was a very hard working player who always did what the coaches wanted of him, including playing out of position nearly his whole career at the 4 position. He was also forced to defend players every game who were bigger than he was, and did a good job. He worked just as hard in the classroom and was a very good student who contributed to the best team GPA's Bradley's men's basketball team has ever had. And he was always a polite, well mannered, and well liked by everyone who knew him.
His final year he was one of the top scorers in the MVC, despite playing on a bad team, and with no real point guard. If he had played with a quality PG, he might have averaged 20+ ppg. He also worked extremely hard to come back from a forced year of sitting out, and played part of last year injured. He was one of the bright spots on last year's team, and was not the reason for so many losses.

[Da Coach]

People are "drooly" over the lineup?!

The Geno Ford BU era arrow is pointing up, but I don't see anyone getting their rocks off over this lineup. I do remember some folks getting drooly over superstars like David Collins, Eddren McCain, and Tyrone Cole Scott.

I am sorry, but I can't see why it is necessary to take another dig at Jim Les. It is funny that the JL-haters always like to accuse others of dwelling on JL, but the majority of times it is the JL-haters who bring him up.

If Jim Les was still the coach we would have the current players who are the most productive players on this team, plus we would have outstanding additions like Remy Abell, Sean Harris, Tyler Brown, Corey Hawkins, and several others. IMO and in the opinions of a lot of people, we would be a lot better off than we were last year and this. Now, until we start winning more games than we lose, let's stop trying to vilify the last coach with weak attempts to cite a handful of players who did not live up to expectations. Jim Les had a lot of solid players, and as I said before, he had All MVC players nearly every year he was at Bradley.
Until we start winning or having All-MVC players again, these unwarranted attacks on the last coaches seem rather hollow.

[LittleBrave]

I don't know what you are basing that on. How well did you know Taylor?
I got to know Taylor while he was here, and that is not my opinion. He was a very hard working player who always did what the coaches wanted of him, including playing out of position nearly his whole career at the 4 position. He was also forced to defend players every game who were bigger than he was, and did a good job. He worked just as hard in the classroom and was a very good student who contributed to the best team GPA's Bradley's men's basketball team has ever had. And he was always a polite, well mannered, and well liked by everyone who knew him.
His final year he was one of the top scorers in the MVC, despite playing on a bad team, and with no real point guard. If he had played with a quality PG, he might have averaged 20+ ppg. He also worked extremely hard to come back from a forced year of sitting out, and played part of last year injured. He was one of the bright spots on last year's team, and was not the reason for so many losses.

Thanks for confirming what I had thought about TB. I'm sure you know him on a more personal level. For me, we correspond sometimes through twitter and I judge mostly based on what I see on TV or hear about in articles.
I didn't necessarily like his attitude, and he probably was my least favorite of Braves during his sophomore season. But he definitely matured with time - maybe being humbled by his health condition and received great support from his family, which seemed vital in his growth. I never questioned his work ethic during his last season, and I feel he led by example last year.

I was disappointed too that he didn't suit up at the end of the year. He may regret it later on in life, but I understand that part of it may be that he didn't want to jeopordize his future b-ball career for a pretty much meaningless last game regarding wins and losses.

[wily coyote]

I don't know what you are basing that on. How well did you know Taylor?
I got to know Taylor while he was here, and that is not my opinion. He was a very hard working player who always did what the coaches wanted of him, including playing out of position nearly his whole career at the 4 position. He was also forced to defend players every game who were bigger than he was, and did a good job. He worked just as hard in the classroom and was a very good student who contributed to the best team GPA's Bradley's men's basketball team has ever had. And he was always a polite, well mannered, and well liked by everyone who knew him.
His final year he was one of the top scorers in the MVC, despite playing on a bad team, and with no real point guard. If he had played with a quality PG, he might have averaged 20+ ppg. He also worked extremely hard to come back from a forced year of sitting out, and played part of last year injured. He was one of the bright spots on last year's team, and was not the reason for so many losses.

Don't doubt most of your post DC but saying TB was a cancer ,might be a little harsh.I agree with you on that. I perfer to say TB wasn't much of a team player.He went through alot and I respect him for getting his degree and all the health problems he went through but a team player he wasn't and have you ever read his tweets. If I was an employer..... oh I forgot I'm retired.

[LittleBrave]

He went through alot and I respect him for getting his degree and all the health problems he went through but a team player he wasn't and have you ever read his tweets. If I was an employer..... oh I forgot I'm retired.

Not to knock you Wily, but his tweets are not much different, and probably a lot more sophisticated and classy than the majority of young people.
Tweet-reading may give you a better perspective of his character, but don't forget he's young and expresses his opinion quite freely.

I read DSE's tweets regularly too, and if you judge his character based on tweets rather than what his coaches say about him, you might get 2 different people. By the way, DSE is a cool cat - didn't mean to call him out for tweets, but he's a good example.

[wily coyote]

Wily - you seem to contradict yourself...if the players JL brought in are so bad - then why is everyone all drooly over our current lineup that includes Will, DSE, Jake, Walt, etc....just who brought in 80% of our lineup and production?
..not to mention one more time for the record...JL was not fully allowed to "bring in" who he wanted...

You seem to be putting words in my mouth I don't recall saying "I was droolying over our current lineup." Do I think we'll be better,yes I do but it's because of the addition of Pickett. I do know who brought in 80% our lineup and I also know where we finished the last two years. Do you see the common connection. Can we finally get on with the Geno era and let the past be the past. If Geno can't get it done in 2 or 3 more years changes will probably be made again,but I don't think that will happen.

[Da Coach]

Not to knock you Wily, but his tweets are not much different, and probably a lot more sophisticated and classy than the majority of young people.
Tweet-reading may give you a better perspective of his character, but don't forget he's young and expresses his opinion quite freely.

I read DSE's tweets regularly too, and if you judge his character based on tweets rather than what his coaches say about him, you might get 2 different people. By the way, DSE is a cool cat - didn't mean to call him out for tweets, but he's a good example.

Agreed. Has anyone followed the tweets of other current players and recruits? I think you'd be surprised, and consider TB's tweets mild.
Personally, I would like to see the coaches or AD prohibit players tweeting, especially during the season.

[wily coyote]

Not to knock you Wily, but his tweets are not much different, and probably a lot more sophisticated and classy than the majority of young people.
Tweet-reading may give you a better perspective of his character, but don't forget he's young and expresses his opinion quite freely.

I read DSE's tweets regularly too, and if you judge his character based on tweets rather than what his coaches say about him, you might get 2 different people. By the way, DSE is a cool cat - didn't mean to call him out for tweets, but he's a good example.

LittleBrave if TB and DSE's tweet are alot more sophisticated and classy than the majority of young people then maybe that's why the young college grads are having so much trouble finding employment. Employers are using this social media today. I'm not saying I agree they should but they are and that's the world we live in today.

[wily coyote]

Personally, I would like to see the coaches or AD prohibit players tweeting, especially during the season.

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