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  • #16
    Putting 25lbs. on Shayok will only help him as he will be a better power forward then a small forward wing type player because of his lack of outside shooting skills, getting him closer to the basket should also help our offensive rebounding as a team, he appears to be a hard worker which will help him in switching to this position, expect for him to have a great season in his new position as I believe it is a better fit for him and the team.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BUSongwriter View Post
      Maybe it's been talked about on the board before, but what do those in the know think about Shayok adding some 45 pounds during the off season? I liked Shayok a lot last year, even when he was making mistakes, and admired the raw talent he occasionally flashed. Any of you have insights if bulked up SHAYOK has also increased his basketball skills? Where do you think he'll fit in this year? I can't wait to see him, and I have high hopes for his season.
      let's get back to this topic...I was always a bit skeptical - where did this claim come from?

      so did Shayok "bulk up" 40+ extra pounds of muscle or not?? At least FOUR times in his columns DAVE REYNOLDS has referred to Shayok as "bulked up" - including "impressively bulked up" and even once saying he has gone from 194 to 238lbs!
      But then why does the official roster say otherwise?

      First the roster lists him as 228 lbs - but last year's roster listed him as 215 lbs....so how did anyone ever come up with 45 pounds??

      Second - he's definitely some bulkier in the upper body and shoulders but honestly - it doesn't look like it's all muscle.........and it doesn't seem to have helped him at all - he's slower and appears less coordinated and can't seem to get a shot off any more. Last year he averaged almost 20 minutes but this year just 5-6 minutes and last year he got off 4-5 shot attempts per game - but now averaging just one every other game or so...
      If he's being bothered by nagging injuries then it's not too late to "shut him down" and not lose the entire year as injury-plagued.
      Last edited by tornado; 11-28-2012, 07:54 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        the roster lists him as 228 lbs[/url] - but last year's roster listed him as 215 lbs....so how did anyone ever come up with 45 pounds??

        Government math?



        ... he's definitely some bulkier in the upper body and shoulders but honestly - it doesn't look like it's all muscle.........and it doesn't seem to have helped him at all - he's slower and appears less coordinated and can't seem to get a shot off any more. Last year he averaged almost 20 minutes but this year just 5-6 minutes and last year he got off 4-5 shot attempts per game - but now averaging just one every other game or so...
        If he's being bothered by nagging injuries then it's not too late to "shut him down" and not lose the entire year as injury-plagued.

        I agree tornado. I'm not sure what the reason for Shayok's decline but he definitely appears lost out there. If he's hurt (and BU values his skills over the next few years) then they should consider a redshirt. Of course, it's possible that this is all he is. Maybe the improved play of our team, and the faster pace that we're playing at, has exposed the fact that Shayok is not as good as many had hoped. Who really knows besides the coach... In Geno Ford I Trust!

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        • #19
          SHAYOK playing like shayok so far.
          The roster has been updated to list him as:

          SHAYOK shayok

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          • #20
            He needs to get more physical inside and get some offensive rebounds, just because you put on more muscle and weight means nothing if you are not willing to mix it up more inside .

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BUSongwriter View Post
              I liked Shayok a lot last year, even when he was making mistakes, and admired the raw talent he occasionally flashed.
              Really, because I recall being incredibly uncomfortable whenever he touched the ball. A year later, my opinion has still not changed.
              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                Really, because I recall being incredibly uncomfortable whenever he touched the ball. A year later, my opinion has still not changed.
                I've heard from a good source that last season when a couple of pro scouts visited Bradley, they were more intruiged by Shayok than either of the seniors on the roster.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gary the Gargoyle View Post
                  I've heard from a good source that last season when a couple of pro scouts visited Bradley, they were more intruiged by Shayok than either of the seniors on the roster.
                  Well I guess that's why I'm not a pro scout.

                  I look forward to him greatly improving (in my opinion) over the next few years!
                  ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                    Well I guess that's why I'm not a pro scout.

                    I look forward to him greatly improving (in my opinion) over the next few years!
                    By the way, I'm not in any way implying that Shayok is a pro prospect, just that he was more intruiging than any of the other players on the roster.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Gary the Gargoyle View Post
                      By the way, I'm not in any way implying that Shayok is a pro prospect, just that he was more intruiging than any of the other players on the roster.
                      I've heard it said that we didn't even have any D-1 players on the roster last season.....so it would be a bit extreme if we had a pro prospect.
                      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                        I've heard it said that we didn't even have any D-1 players on the roster last season.....so it would be a bit extreme if we had a pro prospect.
                        Oh come on Shaun. Please, please, please stop beating that dead horse. It's really unbecoming.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                          Oh come on Shaun. Please, please, please stop beating that dead horse. It's really unbecoming.
                          It was said.....and rather confusing when there are 340+ D-1 teams. Doesn't say much at all for Bradley when "fans" say such things about every player on our roster.

                          Maybe there should be a "Therapy Thread" over here too?
                          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                            Oh come on Shaun. Please, please, please stop beating that dead horse. It's really unbecoming.
                            I don't quite understand. Why is it always "beating a dead horse" when someone gives opinions you do not like? We'd prefer not to see any posts directed toward other posters telling them to shut up. That is the mods' job.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              I don't quite understand. Why is it always "beating a dead horse" when someone gives opinions you do not like? We'd prefer not to see any posts directed toward other posters telling them to shut up. That is the mods' job.
                              Hey, I like Shaun DC. I just get tired of his blanket statement about posters saying BU has no D1 players. I recall one, maybe two posters, saying such a thing. Only an ***** would say we have NONE.

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