Another ISU Scholarship.

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There may be an extension campus but Lincoln College is in Lincoln, IL and Bobby Hill did go to Lincoln College in Lincoln, IL as did Kenyon Smith

[jeffsu]

The stuff I saw on twitter said Lincoln College. You sure you have the right school?

You were (obviously!) definitely correct. Thats what I get for trying to remember the stuff and flip between screens on my phone

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Is John Jones qualified?

No one really knows... seems as though the NCAA may be trying to screw with this kid.

From my understanding, John was originally ruled a 2012 recruit by the NCAA. Then they re-reviewed his Barbados transcripts and decided after his one year of school in Indiana, that he was a high school graduate, which moved him to a 2011 recruit. Major schools were eyeing him as a 2012 recruit after some Chicago high school events in the summer of 2011 but once he was re-classified to a 2011 recruit, ISU landed him.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/high-school/post/_/id/1345/illinois-state-lands-barbados-jones

The Pantagraph said in Nov. 2011 that he was cleared to practice and be on scholarship, but not yet cleared to play: http://www.pantagraph.com/blogs/redb...cc4c002e0.html


That is really the last thing in print about the issue... ISU fans have just assumed it was taken care of and he would have 4 years of eligibility (using last year as a RS). One poster on RBF said he is hearing the NCAA will be/has ruled him eligible but only for 2 years to play... no clue on the validity of the post or the rationale behind the potential ruling though...

there appears to be some answer - the Pantagraph says the NCAA has ruled John Jones has only TWO years of college eligibility...
they give no explanation at all but if the kid has five years to complete just two years of eligibility - (he's already redshirted one of those five years)
....then he might sit out again this year as ISU with Carmichael & Threloff probably just don't need him.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/isu-set-for-first-official-practice-under-muller/article_e192e78a-13ea-11e2-ba1b-001a4bcf887a.html

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Getting back to Geoffrey Allen - does anyone know why he sat an entire year in 2011-2012 then transfers, instead choosing any of several different options that would have worked out way, way better??
...

well, the NCAA gives ISU transfer from EASTERN WASH. Geoffrey Allen a huge Halloween gift..
they grant him a waiver so he can be eligible right away and not sit out like all other transfers...
This is kind of illogical - so you gotta wonder why Anthony Fields & Omari Greer don't get the same waivers -- it's loony....

[Nacho]

well, the NCAA gives ISU transfer from EASTERN WASH. Geoffrey Allen a huge Halloween gift..
they grant him a waiver so he can be eligible right away and not sit out like all other transfers...
This is kind of illogical - so you gotta wonder why Anthony Fields & Omari Greer don't get the same waivers -- it's loony....

Did they apply for waivers?

[jeffsu]

well, the NCAA gives ISU transfer from EASTERN WASH. Geoffrey Allen a huge Halloween gift..
they grant him a waiver so he can be eligible right away and not sit out like all other transfers...
This is kind of illogical - so you gotta wonder why Anthony Fields & Omari Greer don't get the same waivers -- it's loony....

What justification did he have? What would our guys try to use?

[tornado]

there appears to be some answer - the Pantagraph says the NCAA has ruled John Jones has only TWO years of college eligibility......

in today's teleconference it was said that John Jones is NOT qualified and thus not eligible to play this year - so it's not a matter of choosing to redshirt.

[BostonBird]

he left school during a coaching change and sat out a full year rehabbing an injury.

[tornado]

all that has been said on John Jones is that he came from high school to ISU - so now you are saying he went first to some college, then withdrew -- because that's what I had expected as just about the only reason a kid would have only two seasons of eligibility left...

[BostonBird]

all that has been said on John Jones is that he came from high school to ISU - so now you are saying he went first to some college, then withdrew -- because that's what I had expected as just about the only reason a kid would have only two seasons of eligibility left...

Spinking, I'm talking about Allen getting to play "immediately", not jones.

[Nacho]

in today's teleconference it was said that John Jones is NOT qualified and thus not eligible to play this year - so it's not a matter of choosing to redshirt.

I listened to the teleconference and understand that it did sound like thats what Muller said. However, I believe he misspoke and when he said "Jon Jones HAS to sit out this year and will have two years left", he meant to say "He is GOING to sit out this year and will have two years left." Multiple other articles have stated he has 3 years left to play 2, so they have the option of Redshirting him if they want to. Semantics I suppose, since it doesn't really matter either way...

http://www.pantagraph.com/blogs/redbirds/isu-basketball-redbirds-picked-second-in-valley-preseason-poll/article_3b99902a-2229-11e2-a41f-001a4bcf887a.html

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/isu-men-picked-no-in-preseason-mvc-poll/article_132b11a2-21d6-11e2-87aa-0019bb2963f4.html

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then I assume the "Secondary school" he went to in the Caribbean was actually considered a college and that's how he loses eligibility?

Scott Powers - recruiting expert for ESPN & the Sun Times said this...
"Jones, an under-the-radar 6-8, 250-pound forward from Barbados, has committed to Illinois State.
Jones.. had intended to reclassify himself as a Class of 2012 recruit ... but the NCAA clearinghouse recently declared him a high school graduate

..the likes of DePaul and Missouri had started to catch wind of Jones .. most of the high-major programs interested in the big-bodied, athletic forward were eying him as a 2012 recruit.
According to one college basketball coach, Jones would have undoubtedly ended up at an elite high-major program if he had played one more year of high school.

..Jones has slipped into the hands of Illinois State coach Tim Jankovich and has the potential to be a game-changer for the Redbirds
...On Saturday at the Sonny Parker Summer League in Chicago, Jones faced other college talent from around the area and showed off his potential.
He threw down thunderous dunks, rose above opponents for rebounds, outmuscled players inside and displayed an improving touch around the basket.
....They definitely got a steal in him. The coaching staff did their homework.”

...“I hate to say it, but maybe two years from now he’ll be a pro, easily.....“He’s going to have a bright future.
...Jones will also compete in track and field at Illinois State, but he considers basketball his priority."


NOTE -- it's already 1 1/2 years from when that prediction was made...
..and it was funny to read the story your Vidette writer did on John Jones back in July 2011 - as he tried to rip off the Scott Powers story and got the whole thing wrong...claiming that John Jones was going to attend a high school in Chicago named "Powerhouse Prep" -- LOL

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Question for the ISU guys - is Lincoln College's Aaron Simpson still verballed and coming to ISU - he's one of the highest scoring freshman in juco ball and surely must be getting other offers...

I see that Simpson & Lincoln College came and played ICC Wednesday and got beat
(the PJS says the final score was 85-80...but the offical juco site, NJCAA.ORG says it was 86-80) - LINK
Manual's Andrew Jordan had 20 pts & 9 rebs for Lincoln but ICC had balanced scoring with four in double figures.
Aaron Simpson was just 3-10, had 14 pts, 3 reb.
His counterparts - and I suppose the two guys he'd have been guarding - the two starting guards for ICC, went wild (Sam Feehan & Partice Sanders),
and were a combined 10-13, and 13-15 from the FT line - for 19 points EACH!
I can only conclude that Simpson's defense needs work?

[cpacmel]

I don't think ISU is recruiting him. I wish they were. He has to put in 2 years at Lincoln, so we shall see...

[BUBalum05]

Daniel Poneman tweets that Aaron Simpson of Lincoln CC is decommitting from ISU.

https://twitter.com/SwagAir/status/327124534379556867

Follow up tweet says has interest from DePaul, Dayton, UAB, Jacksonville, IPFW, and Eastern IL.