SIX underage Marquette basketball players cited in bar

[amckillip]

I was just trying to check on the followup of all these Marquette violations and found that there have actually been more - some even, that have essentially gone unreported...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/143688676.html

As a remote result, the entire campus "cracked down" on underage drinking and "beefed up" their efforts to catch violators and punish them.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/168232356.html

http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Marquette-Students-Face-Hundreds-in-Fines-for-Drinking-168684226.html?m=y&smobile=y

Apparently the new policies are not really doing much as this just happened weekend before last....dozens arrested by campus police for underage alcohol infractions....

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/39-arrested-in-crackdown-near-uwmilwaukee-m26q537-169153136.html

http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Marquette-Students-Face-Hundreds-in-Fines-for-Drinking-168684226.html?m=y&smobile=y

The bottom line though is that virtually their entire team were legally cited for violations of a similar or worse nature than we have ever seen here in Peoria -
and yet not one player has gotten even one minute of any kind of suspension orlimitation of his activites - and the staff calls the entire issue a closed case.
Renegade??

The only difference between Marquette, BU, and most every other school is the BBall players in this incidence happened to get caught.

A large number of college students go to bars underage, basketball players are students, there is going to be overlap.

[tornado]

I know it happens everywhere and does sometimes end in tragic results....
I applaud the schools who are trying hard to curtail it as best as they can....however - some of them, by softening virtually every rule that ever existed on campuses and by taking such weak steps in the recent past when it came to alcohol issues, they have mostly sent the message that drinking wildly is just part of the college experience and that everyone ought to try it.

BUT - to say it is happening everywhere is an extremely incorrect statement -- as I am aware of numerous college campuses that have essentially ZERO problems of this nature...
Oh- sure you can say maybe they do but it's under wraps - or brush it off because of other factors - but if a college campus hasn't had a single significant alcohol-related issue of any kind in years - then you gotta concede they are doing some things pretty danged well.

I might point out that Northwestern University held a symposium a year ago on this very topic as did Harvard a coupleyears ago - and there was WIDE consensus that many problems on many campuses are of their own doing and that the campuses have cow-towed to the perceived demands for student rights, students' freedoms, permissivness, thus allowing the foxes to rule the henhouses and encouraging "partying" with booze!

BTW -- a couple of schools that I am very familiar with as I have paid big time tuition to them - have been applauded and even given high praise, "grades", and "awards"
for their substance policies that have led to a virtual absence of any problems on their campuses even in this tremendously permissive age!
If you want more info or have kids heading off to college and want to know how to help protect them from this widespread permissiveness that can KILL THEM, lmk...

[tornado]

..junior guard Jake Thomas,....

Jake Thomas is leaving Marquette and transferring - since he played two years at South Dakota State - averaging about 14 ppg,
before transferring to Marquette, then sat out a year before playing another year there - he should get his degree and be eligible to transfer without penalty.
Lesson - just because you are good at a small school - think twice before jumping to a BCS school and expecting playing time..(Marcus Arnold)

[alczervik75]

Cited for underage alcohol violation - but...this news is only NOW being mentioned -
the incident was said to have happened in late January...six underage players from the team (freshman guard Todd Mayo, 20; junior guard Jake Thomas, 20; sophomore guard Vander Blue, 19; sophomore forward Jamail Jones, 19; freshman forward Juan Anderson, 18; and freshman guard Derrick Wilson, 20) were cited by police for underage alcohol violations - they cannot legally be at that bar while liquor is served - but as more info comes out - some sources are quesitoning if there are more than just this one violation....
it is now being said that some other event happened in February and perhaps another more recently .......
One even in Feb. also involved many other players on the team including their star Darius Johnson-Odom - who was not ticketed but who along with the other over-21 athletes - might have been served with citaitons if they were hosting the others of allowing them to drink...and were suspended for one half of a game in late February.

Only Thomas missed any games right after their initial underage alcohol violations - and he's redshirting anyway as a transfer - so he hasn't played all season.
Blue and Mayo have played every game and the others almost every game since.

Apparently some other violation caused Marquette head coach to hold three players out of HALF of one game in LATE February (Vander Blue, senior guard Darius Johnson-Odom and junior guard Junior Cadougan)..

Here's the AD's comment on the situation...not very long...

"Discipline was imposed through the team, the Athletic Department and the university,
"Since we have dealt with this issue, none of this prevents any of our players from participating in the NCAA tournament.
We are looking forward to Thursday??™s game.???
...AD Larry Williams

However - some reporters have quoted the school's athletic code as saying...
"The university's code of conduct says students are in violation of the university's alcohol policy if they are in the presence of or using alcoholic beverages."
and that this alone warrants some suspension of the athletes...
also -- the comments from the athletes on the police reports conflict - some say nobody was carding, others say they were carded and allowed in.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/143490406.html

The bar manager said there was some "incident" outside the bar late that night...and the head coach simply says..

"Some of the commentary and some of the quotes and dates, I'm not sure how all that matches up,
but I'll do my absolute best to figure out how that's played itself out," Buzz Williams said.
"That's the only thing I'm going to say about that."..and that all the players will play....

lol, never saw players at the lady in the mid 90's who were underage.

[bradleyfan124]

Noooo! College kids under 21 drinking? What is this country coming to..