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  • SIX underage Marquette basketball players cited in bar

    Cited for underage alcohol violation - but...this news is only NOW being mentioned -
    the incident was said to have happened in late January...six underage players from the team (freshman guard Todd Mayo, 20; junior guard Jake Thomas, 20; sophomore guard Vander Blue, 19; sophomore forward Jamail Jones, 19; freshman forward Juan Anderson, 18; and freshman guard Derrick Wilson, 20) were cited by police for underage alcohol violations - they cannot legally be at that bar while liquor is served - but as more info comes out - some sources are quesitoning if there are more than just this one violation....
    it is now being said that some other event happened in February and perhaps another more recently .......
    One even in Feb. also involved many other players on the team including their star Darius Johnson-Odom - who was not ticketed but who along with the other over-21 athletes - might have been served with citaitons if they were hosting the others of allowing them to drink...and were suspended for one half of a game in late February.

    Only Thomas missed any games right after their initial underage alcohol violations - and he's redshirting anyway as a transfer - so he hasn't played all season.
    Blue and Mayo have played every game and the others almost every game since.

    Apparently some other violation caused Marquette head coach to hold three players out of HALF of one game in LATE February (Vander Blue, senior guard Darius Johnson-Odom and junior guard Junior Cadougan)..

    Here's the AD's comment on the situation...not very long...

    "Discipline was imposed through the team, the Athletic Department and the university,
    "Since we have dealt with this issue, none of this prevents any of our players from participating in the NCAA tournament.
    We are looking forward to Thursday??™s game
    .???
    ...AD Larry Williams

    However - some reporters have quoted the school's athletic code as saying...
    "The university's code of conduct says students are in violation of the university's alcohol policy if they are in the presence of or using alcoholic beverages."
    and that this alone warrants some suspension of the athletes...
    also -- the comments from the athletes on the police reports conflict - some say nobody was carding, others say they were carded and allowed in.


    The bar manager said there was some "incident" outside the bar late that night...and the head coach simply says..

    "Some of the commentary and some of the quotes and dates, I'm not sure how all that matches up,
    but I'll do my absolute best to figure out how that's played itself out," Buzz Williams said.
    "That's the only thing I'm going to say about that."
    ..and that all the players will play....

  • #2
    As long as they go to class and aren't harming anyone else I'll chalk this up as a "who cares they're in college." From first hand knowledge I know they aren't
    the only ncaa basketball players who have gone to a bar pre 21.
    "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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    • #3
      Thats probably the most reasonable way of looking at incidents like the. Unfortunately, college athletic departments have strict rules of conduct that that are expected to adhere to. And sometimes even when they comply totally with the guidelines set in their own rules, newspaper writers might still try to whip it into a big deal and try to make it into a case of a renegade coach.

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      • #4
        I actually agree with you ...the parts of the story I find interesting are the contradictions -- the appearance someone is lying...
        ...and if you recall when even one tiny alcohol violation happened at BU it led to the famous "renegade program" claim!!!

        The initial event happened in January...but Buzz Williams made two different claims about how it was handled and how discipline was handed out.

        then when the players were docked playing tim in half of a game a month later - Buzz spun that as a different event while the AD seemed to think it was linked to the same event..

        Then the players had different and conflicting comments...whgile at least two of the players have had VERY serious previous arrest issues on the team so should not their violations be a bit more serious?


        BTW -- several other serious issues with illegal actions by basketball players at Marquette - not just Blue's assault - have been swept under the rug and barely mentioned --

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        • #5
          When I was at Bradley, I attended many parties, with many Bradley athletes. They were from all BU sports, and they were all different ages. It was not uncommon for underage players to attend this events.

          This happens at every single college campus.
          When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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          • #6
            it does happen at all college campuses BUT...as a PRE-condition to receiving their scholarships - the athletes are asked to agree to and sign the Scholarship Agreement - which is a contract in which they AGREE not to do many of these things...

            So, of course they are free to drink and do whatever they want but if they sign an agreement/contract NOT to do it - then DO IT - that's different...
            That's like cheating on your wife - because NOW you have not only committed a legal violation but also a contractual one that might cause discipline, suspensions, or loss of scholarship.

            All I ever asked for in this regard is consistency --
            -with minor violations (alcohol, petty crime, or he-said/she-said issues), then discipline sufficiently then give 'em another chance or two
            -with BIG major violations (cheating, lying, major crimes, repeated bar brawls, etc..) they should be gone

            and yet from our guys in the media and some posters we see an "I don't care attitude" when the big things happen at Marquette, Memphis, and ISU...
            then we see the "Renegade program" and "Jim Les should be fired" claims when a MINOR issue happens at BU
            This is why I feel compelled to post on this - it's a HYPOCRISY issue.

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            • #7
              More-- Marquette just received word from Federal officials that hey are under review as to how they handled the basketball player-rape allegations last year...



              BUT --- Here's a little more to the story...and now it's the West Virginia fans who are mocking Buzz and his troubles...

              in the game in Feb. when Marquette beat West Virginia even tho a couple of the players got disciplined by sitting a half -- as soon as Marquette won, Buzz Williams pranced to mid-court at West Virginia and did a little dance as he acted like he was playing a banjo -- interpreted by some as insulting and by others as a subtle reference to a somewhat racial-type of attack that all West Virginians are "Deliverance-type-hillbillies"...

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              • #8
                As a current student i have been to bars underage, and have seen multiple BU basketball players at bars underage as well...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RedSeaElite1 View Post
                  As a current student i have been to bars underage, and have seen multiple BU basketball players at bars underage as well...
                  +1

                  I often wondered how for instance a 6'6-6'11" freshman/sophomore basketball player would feel comfortable doing so as everyone knows who they are.

                  Not naming names just saying they must feel pretty safe.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post

                    All I ever asked for in this regard is consistency --
                    -with minor violations (alcohol, petty crime, or he-said/she-said issues), then discipline sufficiently then give 'em another chance or two
                    -with BIG major violations (cheating, lying, major crimes, repeated bar brawls, etc..) they should be gone

                    and yet from our guys in the media and some posters we see an "I don't care attitude" when the big things happen at Marquette, Memphis, and ISU...
                    then we see the "Renegade program" and "Jim Les should be fired" claims when a MINOR issue happens at BU
                    This is why I feel compelled to post on this - it's a HYPOCRISY issue.
                    I understand your point, but to me it is simple.

                    The PJStar or BU fans are always going to cover or discuss something at Bradley differently than they would something going on at Marquette or Kentucky or ISU, I think.

                    It's like the NFL....I care a whole lot more about what the Packers do and allow and say than I do about the Bears. If a Bears player gets arrested or breaks a rule, I don't care. IF a Packers player does something stupid...I do care. I don't want "my team" to look bad.

                    I think its the same with BU. Why would WEEK, for instance, look into some allegation at Marquette? It has no local draw (for the most part) and most wouldn't be interested. If the same thing happened at BU, then it has local draw. You have a ton of graduates in the area...it's much more topical IF it's local.

                    Now, obviously if it's some huge scandal, the locals might still cover it. Like Michigan vacating their Final 4's...but even that is just a copy and paste from the A.P. most likely.

                    The reason Bradley is covered differently is because they are THE local team. They are more relevant here.

                    Just my 2 cents.
                    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                    • #11
                      maybe but I believe there's been a degree of hypocrisy, bias, inconsistency, and false & misleading reporting demonstrated over and over in regards to Bradley -- many such examples given - from the Theobald claim that JL illegally tampered with Cellus allegadly quoting Cellus' father - who later publicly disputed and disavowed the very quotes Phil did a Dan-Ratherly-job to hold on to...all the way down to mis-stating over and over and over the wrong facts and even repeating again AFTER they've been disproven in the minor and since-dismissed DRuff case...
                      Likewise the fluff articles in a season where we were the worst ever compared to intense criticism and attacks of the team & coaches in a season when we actually played in the post-season!


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                      • #12
                        What everyone would like is a level playing field vis a vis college athletes breaking laws, or, terms of their scholarships..

                        Unfortunately if going to a bar and drinking underage is a term of the scholarship, discipline needs to be applied - consistently.

                        If you don't like the law, or the terms of scholarships, change them.

                        Otherwise, who is to say which laws/rules each of us chooses to follow or not... Or enforce or not?

                        Applying personal beliefs to decisions on adhering to laws/rules of our society or not is kind of anarchy isn't it?
                        BUilding for the Future

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          ...sophomore forward Jamail Jones, 19.....
                          Jamail Jones has decided to cut loose from Marquette and transfer -- in fact he's going to FGCU to play for head coach there Andy Enfield - who in his first year at FGCU got his team all the way to the Championship game of the A-Sun Tourney!
                          This is quite a coup for FGCU as Jamail Jones is a 4-STAR recruit & was ranked as the #52 player NATIONALLY but Rivals, and ESPN had him at #53 nationally.


                          FGCU seems to be raiding the midwest as their women's basketball also just landed a top transfer (immediately eligible) who was one of the top scorers in the Horizon League..

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                          • #14
                            Marquette again has violations - appear to be some self-discovered and self reported recruiting violations

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                            • #15
                              I was just trying to check on the followup of all these Marquette violations and found that there have actually been more - some even, that have essentially gone unreported...


                              As a remote result, the entire campus "cracked down" on underage drinking and "beefed up" their efforts to catch violators and punish them.



                              Apparently the new policies are not really doing much as this just happened weekend before last....dozens arrested by campus police for underage alcohol infractions....




                              The bottom line though is that virtually their entire team were legally cited for violations of a similar or worse nature than we have ever seen here in Peoria -
                              and yet not one player has gotten even one minute of any kind of suspension orlimitation of his activites - and the staff calls the entire issue a closed case.
                              Renegade??

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