Wichita-ISU

[BUFanatic]

ISU up early, JW just gave a dirty elbow on the floor.

[Bravesfan]

ISU giving WSU all they can handle, down 52-50 with 11 minutes to go. Preferrably I would like to see both Wichita St. and Creighton upset today. It may make for terrible ratings for the MVC final in an ISU/Evansville final, but at least the Valley would get three teams in the Big Dance for sure!

[lefty]

!st wish came true ISU wins

[Future Walk-On]

thanks for ISU being selfish.

ISU will be good next year....they shouldn't have ruined WSU final four run

[Da Coach]

Creighton fans have just become a little more nervous. If someone other than Wichita State or Creighton win the tournament, is there a chance the NCAA committee might take only 2 teams from the MVC, and that could put Creighton on the bubble?

[TheAsianSensation]

Creighton fans have just become a little more nervous. If someone other than Wichita State or Creighton win the tournament, is there a chance the NCAA committee might take only 2 teams from the MVC, and that could put Creighton on the bubble?

Creighton is making the tournament.

We may or may not see some questionable calls in Evansville's favor coming up in the next hour

[Bravesfan]

Creighton fans have just become a little more nervous. If someone other than Wichita State or Creighton win the tournament, is there a chance the NCAA committee might take only 2 teams from the MVC, and that could put Creighton on the bubble?

I can't see that happening. Both teams are projected for solid single digit seeds, unlike UNI last year and Creighton the year before who were projected 11 seeds going into championship week. Not that much margin for error the last two years. This year it would take about 12 of these types of upsets to put Creighton and/or Wichita St. on the bubble.

The team that should be worried now is Northwestern and the teams right above them (and anyone in the Pac 12), as I'm not sure Northwestern is in right now even with their win against Iowa today.

But back to the Valley teams. Wichita St. should still get a 6 or 7 seed at the worst, and I still believe they have Final Four potential despite today's loss. This is a good loss as this will just serve to make them even more determined going into the NCAA Tournament. And unlike last year where they sat nervously on Selection Sunday after winning the Valley regular season but failing to win the Valley tourney, they have no reason to be nervous this Selection Sunday outside of where they may be seeded. They can kiss a 3 or 4 seed goodbye, but I'm sure they would be happy if they get a 5 seed, which is where I think they deserve to be. And as much as I would like to see Murray St. seeded at least a 5 seed based on their gaudy record, I still believe the Shockers should be seeded higher than them based on all the great wins they had this year.

[Da Coach]

Likely you are right, but recall that a couple times, MVC teams have been excluded with RPI's lower than 25 where Creighton's is at. It's helped that they handled Evansville easily and will play in the championship game.

[SycamoreFanatic]

I was banned from the Shocker board earlier in the week for stating the obvious...........that there was no way in hell that they would win in St. Louis since they never have and this year would be no exception. Made a comment about the long line of cars always heading back down I-44 & leaving empty motel rooms and cheap tickets behind. One of their posters started cursing at me and almost got banned so they ganged up on the moderator and banned me. Really really hurts my feelings that I can't go over there and tell them what a great game they played today. Maybe one of them will come over here and accept my congratulations? If not, oh well I tried.

[Chico]

I was banned from the Shocker board earlier in the week for stating the obvious...........that there was no way in hell that they would win in St. Louis since they never have and this year would be no exception. Made a comment about the long line of cars always heading back down I-44 & leaving empty motel rooms and cheap tickets behind. One of their posters started cursing at me and almost got banned so they ganged up on the moderator and banned me. Really really hurts my feelings that I can't go over there and tell them what a great game they played today. Maybe one of them will come over here and accept my congratulations? If not, oh well I tried.

What do expect when you go on another team's board to belittle their team and fans? Sorry, but can't blame them for banning you.

[Bravesfan]

Likely you are right, but recall that a couple times, MVC teams have been excluded with RPI's lower than 25 where Creighton's is at. It's helped that they handled Evansville easily and will play in the championship game.

Yeah, I suppose anything is possible, especially after Missouri St. being left out with something like a 21 RPI. But I still think the Shockers and Creighton (if they lose) should be safe this year. But they won't be safe until their team names are called on Selection Sunday.

[jasonpeoria911]

Maybe a little money under the table from IL State to WSU so IL State can get into the NIT? UNI probably lost their NIT bid, so maybe the MVC or IL State threw some money under the table at WSU to get a NIT bid for IL State. Ya just never know.

Jason

[understandingthetruth]

Indeed!

Maybe a little money under the table from IL State to WSU so IL State can get into the NIT? UNI probably lost their NIT bid, so maybe the MVC or IL State threw some money under the table at WSU to get a NIT bid for IL State. Ya just never know.

Jason

Amen! This whole circus of an ncaa tournament has been a hoax
since the early 1980's. Add to this more and more 'involvement' by and from
the thought police - referees on court and what you get is a malaise of a
longer than long show and no basketball game.

[wily coyote]

Maybe a little money under the table from IL State to WSU so IL State can get into the NIT? UNI probably lost their NIT bid, so maybe the MVC or IL State threw some money under the table at WSU to get a NIT bid for IL State. Ya just never know.

Jason

Jason do you stay up at night thinking of these crazy things?

[TheAsianSensation]

Likely you are right, but recall that a couple times, MVC teams have been excluded with RPI's lower than 25 where Creighton's is at. It's helped that they handled Evansville easily and will play in the championship game.

To be fair, the bubble was a lot stronger in the other years. 2006 was the strongest bubble ever, IMO.

As for the posts about ISU and the NIT, just no. No. That committee is crooked. Straight-up crooked. They'll believe ISU is our strongest candidate, and they will not take a team with that kind of resume. They won't. I would bet copious amounts of money on it.