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  • Obscure and little known rules of basketball

    Every once in a while some obscure rule makes the headlines....
    remember this one ? when Chicago North Lawndale wore uniforms that had one little piece of trim that was a violation of rules and it cost them a shot at the state title...



    Well - here are some other little known and obscure rules....feel free to add others you may know about, but I have seen many times where the failure to know about some obscure rule cost kids who violated them..


    -In women's college basketball there is no 10-second backcourt violation...
    so if they want to stall they can stay in the backcourt and play keep away for the full 30 seconds making a full court press way less effective.
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    -In the pregame warmups a player dunks and a ref calls a technical. (remember, a technical also counts as a personal foul)
    Does that player START the game with one foul on his tally? Let's say he dunks three times before the ref can alert him that he's been called for a violation. Then does the player start the game with 3 technical fouls, thus be ejected?

    Answer - quite simply any and ALL dunking in pregame is a technical ON THE BENCH...it does count on the team total of personals so the team starts with one foul but no individual player.
    After being warned if another player also dunks, the ref has the option of calling a 2nd technical and ejecting the head coach.


    -basketball players are called "cagers" because at one time there was an attempt to change the game by installing a cage around the court to prevent all the out of bounds plays.
    At one time there were deemed excessive delays when balls went flying out of bounds, into the stands, or down stairwells, and there were also fan injuries when players and balls went flying.




    My own father told me about the "cage playing days" but sensible rules to control and settle out of bounds situations made the cages impractical.
    One thing that led to chaos and ushered in the cages was at that time the rules awarded the out of bounds to the player who retreived it first. Thus there were all out brawls up in the stands, and down the stairwells with players fighting for the loose out-of-bounds balls. This obscure old rule also has since been changed.


    -also back in that era - after every made basket, the ball was brought back to the center circle and re-tipped - kinda like how they do a new face-off in hockey after each goal...but the ball was not necessarily tossed up high - just tossed in between the two centers....
    This made having a strong, powerful guy playing center quite a premium so instead of using tall lanky guys as centers, they usually went for guys who looked like this...powerul & muscular who could dive in and get the ball like a rugby scrum.



    -what is the penalty if a guy guarding the inbounder reaches across the end line?
    Answer - it is a delay of game warning. If it happens again it is a technical on the bench.

    BUT - what if the defender reaches across the end line while defending the inbounds and touches the ball or the player?
    That violation is different and results in an automatic technical without any warning.


    - The "air dribble"...
    This is one I'll bet 95% or more people will not only say they've never heard of but even dispute it...

    BUT -- definitely there was a time around 1915-1920 when air dribbling was allowed. Similar to dribbling by bouncing the ball off the floor - there was a time when it was legal to bat the ball in the air as well - and allowed a player to move as long as he was NOT carrying the ball. Air dribbling has been disallowed and removed from rule books for at least 75 years.
    Years ago, probably when Basketball first started as a sport air dribbling was allowed. One could bounce the ball upward from the palm of the hand much like the ball is dribbled today with the palm down. Today, it would probably be called "steps". I would like to know when and if air dribbling was removed from basketball. Some fifty years ago I was a basketball referee for high school games and I do remember the rulebook's reference to "air dribble". I don't remember the rule word-for-word now, but it was essentially as follows: "The player in possession of the ball may flip or toss the ball into the air and then bat the ball in the desired direction. The player may then run ahead, or past the defender to retrieve the ball. When the player catches up to the batted ball he may then resume dribbling the ball in the normal way. If he catches the ball with both hands, his dribble is completed and he must either shoot the ball or pass it. Only one air dribble per possession is allowed and the air dribble must take place at the beginning of the player's possession. (In other words, you could not dribble the ball three times and then bat the ball in the performance of an air dribble.) I never saw anyone try this procedure and I cannot find any reference to it in my copy of NCAA Rules of Basketball.

    We came across this in our manual and no one could definately say they knew what it was. Would like to hear your best guess or if know for sure, let



    -BUT - here's a similar play...
    let's say a player ends his dribble then shoots, but the shot hits NOTHING - not the rim nor backboard or any other player..
    BUT the shooter runs and catches the shot as it is coming down out of the air and starts to dribble again.
    Is this "travelling"?

    I suspect at least 80-90% will say yes, it is traveling - but it is NOT.
    As long as in the ref's judgement, it was not an intentional self-pass, and it was a legit shot, then player control ends, and when he goes and gets the ball -
    even if he catches it out of the air - it is a legal situation.
    Even some refs call this one wrong...
    It is rule # 4.43...


    -One last situation - see if anyone can get this...

    IS THERE EVER A TIME in basketball where the referee, by rules, will blow his whistle and STOP PLAY after a made basket - even if there is NO FOUL, NO GOALTENDING, NO timeout, and no violation of any kind??

    Answer - yes, there is...if a player scores into his own basket (scores into the wrong goal), the correct action by rules is for the referees to blow the whistle, stop play,
    be sure to award 2 pts to the proper team, and then award an inbounds play to the team that just shot the ball (not the team that was awarded the 2 pts) since it counts as a basket for the other team.


    As a corollary to this situation - let's say a player shoots a 25 foot shot into the wrong basket - does if result in 3-points for the other team??
    NOPE -- just two -- you cannot score a 3-pointer unless it goes into your own basket!
    Player on Team A shoots what he thinks is a 3-point attempt, but it is at the wrong basket and goes in. I know Team B gets the points, but do they get



    ODDLY - the rule is quite different in the NBA - as any intent to shoot into the wrong basket is illegal and nullified.
    According to N.B.A. rules, even if the Knicks’ Nate Robinson’s shot into the Nets’ basket Saturday had beaten the buzzer, it would not have given the Nets any points.
    Last edited by tornado; 03-01-2012, 10:57 AM.

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    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    As a corollary to this situation - let's say a player shoots a 25 foot shot into the wrong basket - does if result in 3-points for the other team??
    NOPE -- just two -- you cannot score a 3-pointer unless it goes into your own basket!
    http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...ng-basket.html
    This one is interesting. Would not have guessed that. I wonder the last time it happened.

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      Probably does not happen much...
      also - if a long shot from the opposite end bounces into the hoop - it is still just a 2-pointer as the definition of a shot ends when it strikes the floor...

      BTW -- here's an odd one someone PM'ed to me..

      In a game between VMI and George Mason in 2009 -- a really hard and somewhat intentional collision occurred between a dribbler and a defender...
      The refs called differing fouls and then huddled and finally settled on a DOUBLE FOUL...
      calling BOTH a charging call on the dribbler AND and blocking call on the defender on the exact same play...
      They then went to the alternating possession to determine which team got to inbounds the ball.

      I guess the refs have the prerogative of making such a call - but they probably erred in not calling it one way or the other.


      One other odd rule situation happened in 1982 when the LA Lakers' Norm Nixon was shooting one free throw in the final 3 seconds of a game that they were down 2....SO....he did something for which no rule was in the books...
      He faked his free throw, drawing BOTH teams into the lane. Then the rule for a double lane violation was a jump ball,
      but with Kareem Abdul Jabbar jumping at the FT circle right next to his own basket, the Lakers got the tip and hit the basket - ultimately winning the game in OT.
      The basketball commissioner (Larry O'Brien) CHANGED the ruling later to declare the final 3 seconds had to be replayed because Nixon really cannot be allowed to benefit from such a move, plus since the FT was actually never taken, the players on the lane should be repositioned and a new rule was inserted in the books that if a player fakes a FT, it's a violation and he loses his turn at the line.
      The actual outcome then went into the books as the final 3 seconds were replayed 4 months later and the Spurs winning 117-114.



      Originally Dr. James Naismith had just 13 rules for this game and here they are..

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