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    Illlinois is struggling again on the road at Michigan. They are now down 14 with under 7 minutes to go. Tyler Griffey, who never got off the bench their last 2 games, and who has been the forgotten man all year, has been the star of this game for Illinois with 18 points so far. But Bruce Weber seems to think that he can play much of the time with a 4-guard offense in the Big Ten, and it's not working.

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    As soon as Weber put Tyler Griffey back on the floor, the Illini quickly closed the gap to 7, 58-51. But now he's playing with 4 guards again, and I expect the margin to widen again.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
      As soon as Weber put Tyler Griffey back on the floor, the Illini quickly closed the gap to 7, 58-51. But now he's playing with 4 guards again, and I expect the margin to widen again.
      Against Michigan you can but not against OSU or MSU.
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      • #4
        Illinois's offense is pathetic....standing around while one guy dribbles..no movement in the motionless offense

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        • #5
          I noticed there were always 2 or 3 Illini players standing still while 1 posted, and 1 cut. Just too little motion.

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          • #6
            BW's going to have to win out at home and steal 1 on the road to have a prayer of retaining his job. And even at that point, I'm not sure it's enough.

            Good guy, clean program. A shame he can't make it work.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lefty View Post
              Illinois's offense is pathetic....standing around while one guy dribbles..no movement in the motionless offense
              Yeah - it resembled our offense a bit when we played Michigan earlier in the season. (at least the part I watched yesterday).

              I am actually pleased at BU's progression on the offensive end of late. A lot more motion and better decision making. I think Walt has a lot to do with that in his penetration. We just need guys to MAKE the shots.

              The Illinois offense is tough to watch. Not playing as a team - everyone trying to be Lebron James yesterday.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ancona flash View Post
                BW's going to have to win out at home and steal 1 on the road to have a prayer of retaining his job. And even at that point, I'm not sure it's enough.

                Good guy, clean program. A shame he can't make it work.
                AND I believe they need to finish with 8 conference wins to have a shot at making the NCAA tournament. I think they're sitting at 5-7 right now? And this was after a surprising 4-1 start in the B-10.
                They will need to finish 3-3 to even be on the bubble.

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                • #9
                  insane that I still saw people trashing Sammy - yet Sammy did NOT play this game having twisted his knee..

                  guess what Illini missed - ball handling, passing, and defense against tthe Michigan guards..
                  Brandon Paul had 7 turnovers trying to play point guard - which is NOT his natural position - Michigan got 19 points off Illinois' turnovers!!!
                  I'd say there's pretty good evidence that Sammy NOT playing was the difference in this game...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                    AND I believe they need to finish with 8 conference wins to have a shot at making the NCAA tournament. I think they're sitting at 5-7 right now? And this was after a surprising 4-1 start in the B-10.
                    They will need to finish 3-3 to even be on the bubble.
                    They are projected as a 13 seed with ESPN. They are going to have to play well to ensure a spot. I still think they make it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      insane that I still saw people trashing Sammy - yet Sammy did NOT play this game having twisted his knee..

                      guess what Illini missed - ball handling, passing, and defense against tthe Michigan guards..
                      Brandon Paul had 7 turnovers trying to play point guard - which is NOT his natural position - Michigan got 19 points off Illinois' turnovers!!!
                      I'd say there's pretty good evidence that Sammy NOT playing was the difference in this game...

                      If he's healthy yes...but he's not. Even if his knee was fine his ankles are still a problem. I know you have strong allegiance to Sam but he really hasn't done much since the first of the year. It's not because of heart or toughness...he just can't right now. Paul has 5plus turnovers a game anyway, he didn't get 7 turnovers just playing point guard....the only area Sam makes a difference now is giving some guys( like Abrams) a rest....

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                      • #12
                        Most Athletic Directors, as former Illinois AD Ron Guenther always did, will try to deflect the heat on their coaches during the season by giving them a vote of confidence, even if it isn't always sincere. But according to this ESPN article, the new AD at Illinois, Mike Thomas, answered questions from fans on a Champaign radio station Saturday morning, and refused to give Bruce Weber any vote of confidence, instead saying only that "I will assess the situation at the end of the season no different than I do with the other 18 sports, no different than I did for the football program".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                          Most Athletic Directors, as former Illinois AD Ron Guenther always did, will try to deflect the heat on their coaches during the season by giving them a vote of confidence, even if it isn't always sincere. But according to this ESPN article, the new AD at Illinois, Mike Thomas, answered questions from fans on a Champaign radio station Saturday morning, and refused to give Bruce Weber any vote of confidence, instead saying only that "I will assess the situation at the end of the season no different than I do with the other 18 sports, no different than I did for the football program".
                          http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/story...oach-bruce-web
                          HOW DIFFERENT FROM THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM?????????

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                          • #14
                            I have no dog in this fight, so I have no opinion of BW staying/going at Illinois.

                            IF, and its only an IF, BW becomes available, does he head back to SIU to revive their program

                            Any other MVC school a good fit for BW if he ends up looking for a job
                            BUilding for the Future

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                            • #15
                              It is well known that Bruce Weber is a friend of Chris Lowery's, and Lowery worked for Weber before he took the SIU job. If this scenario plays out like some propose, it will be interesting to see if the fact that SIU wants his friend fired would dissuade Weber from taking the SIU job. Weber will not be that desperate for a job.

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