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  • #16
    I am sick of people saying he is not quick enough to play defense for this team. No one on this team plays defense so that can't be the reason why he is not playing.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
      I am sick of people saying he is not quick enough to play defense for this team. No one on this team plays defense so that can't be the reason why he is not playing.
      So its not possible for him to be worse than the guys who do play?

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      • #18
        it is possible but debatable

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        • #19
          Instead of getting beat by 35 we get beat by 45 its not much different.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            it is possible but debatable
            Most things are debatable. One thing not debatable is that Geno Ford is the coach. He knows more than guys on a message board. I guess that last one is debatable for some but to me its not.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
              Instead of getting beat by 35 we get beat by 45 its not much different.
              I would guess that Geno is doing what he thinks is best. Whether that means what is best to win a single game this year or win in the future is the question.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rsmit84 View Post
                I would guess that Geno is doing what he thinks is best. Whether that means what is best to win a single game this year or win in the future is the question.
                I agree. There were plenty of people ripping the last coach for not playing certain individuals and the same thing is happening now. Coaches are programmed to win today and not think of next year as much, so I doubt that GF is playing certain guys and others because he is thinking about next year. He is playing the guys that he thinks will get him wins this year.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SFP View Post
                  I agree. There were plenty of people ripping the last coach for not playing certain individuals and the same thing is happening now. Coaches are programmed to win today and not think of next year as much, so I doubt that GF is playing certain guys and others because he is thinking about next year. He is playing the guys that he thinks will get him wins this year.
                  But with so many lopsided losses this season why not let the guys play? Even the last coach let the bench play in games that were out of reach one way or the other. But it's Geno's team now and if he's looking to the future that's his call.
                  What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SFP View Post
                    I agree. There were plenty of people ripping the last coach for not playing certain individuals and the same thing is happening now. Coaches are programmed to win today and not think of next year as much, so I doubt that GF is playing certain guys and others because he is thinking about next year. He is playing the guys that he thinks will get him wins this year.
                    Agreed.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SFP View Post
                      I agree. There were plenty of people ripping the last coach for not playing certain individuals and the same thing is happening now. Coaches are programmed to win today and not think of next year as much, so I doubt that GF is playing certain guys and others because he is thinking about next year. He is playing the guys that he thinks will get him wins this year.
                      My question is, could Stewart be any worse than Crawford? I don't mind seeing Crawford play for the same reasons that I would like to see DS get some time.

                      Crawford 173 minutes

                      .250 FG% .167 3pt % 16 rebounds, 6 assists, 9 turnovers, 3 steals

                      Stewart 45 minutes

                      .250 FG% 0% 3pt%, 3 rebounds 2 assists 2 turnovers 2 steals

                      Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                      ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                      • #26
                        The best guards you have play. Its pretty simple. Obviously DS has not shown Geno nearly enough in practice to warrant any playing time when the game is close. WL, DSE, and CW all give us a better chance to compete.

                        If we walked the ball up the court and used the whole shot clock, had great shooters at the 2 and 3 spot, only played a zone defense (with big bigs to help guards who got beat) , and never pressed then DS might be able to get a few minutes. Problem is, that is not the style of game Geno wants to play.

                        I have seen him play as much as anyone over the years. A good high school player in a mediocre basketball conference. I never felt his skills were good enough to help us much his first 2 years. Maybe a little his last 2 years. After watching him in limited play now, I don't think he can be a key guy down the road. Every team seems to have 2 or 3 guards who are quicker, faster, stronger and taller. Plus, don't forget, DS was not a good shooter. He was a great scorer at Limestone because he took 20-25 shots per game, made lots of layups, and was probably 60-65% on 10 plus free throws per game.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View Post
                          Right - and given how the season is going, why not give him a chance? smh
                          It should tell everyone something in that D.S. does not play at all on a last place team, was told by BU fans over the summer that had seen him play many games in high school that he would have a hard time getting minutes, obviously Geno sees him in practice and is dying for players to step up and contribute yet he must believe D.S. is not good enough now, I wish he was but trust Geno on this matter.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SFP View Post
                            I agree. There were plenty of people ripping the last coach for not playing certain individuals and the same thing is happening now. Coaches are programmed to win today and not think of next year as much, so I doubt that GF is playing certain guys and others because he is thinking about next year. He is playing the guys that he thinks will get him wins this year.


                            Correct. I trust geno to make the right decisions for his team, however, the few comments here that could be called negative are barely at the level of what could be called "criticism". Rather, I see them as simply comments by fans who are tired of losing and watching games turn into a copies of the others and not seeing adjustments made.
                            It is incredibly mild by comparison with what we have seen the past 5 or more seasons, so please spare us the admonishing that only the coaches know best, or that fans don't deserve the right to voice an opinion.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chico View Post
                              But with so many lopsided losses this season why not let the guys play? Even the last coach let the bench play in games that were out of reach one way or the other. But it's Geno's team now and if he's looking to the future that's his call.
                              I'm with you on this one Chico. We are 6-16 with basically the same old same old lineups and substitutions. I never saw DS play high school, but from what I have seen on a limited basis this year, DS appears to be a team player. He has 1 less steal than Crawford in 128 fewer minutes. Rivals listed DS as a 3 star recruit with offers from Depaul and West Virginia. Yet we sit the kid on the bench and get him little division 1 experience in his freshman year.
                              Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                              ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                                Correct. I trust geno to make the right decisions for his team, however, the few comments here that could be called negative are barely at the level of what could be called "criticism". Rather, I see them as simply comments by fans who are tired of losing and watching games turn into a copies of the others and not seeing adjustments made.
                                It is incredibly mild by comparison with what we have seen the past 5 or more seasons, so please spare us the admonishing that only the coaches know best, or that fans don't deserve the right to voice an opinion.
                                Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                                I'm with you on this one Chico. We are 6-16 with basically the same old same old lineups and substitutions. I never saw DS play high school, but from what I have seen on a limited basis this year, DS appears to be a team player. He has 1 less steal than Crawford in 128 fewer minutes. Rivals listed DS as a 3 star recruit with offers from Depaul and West Virginia. Yet we sit the kid on the bench and get him little division 1 experience in his freshman year.


                                Well said fellas!

                                Naysayers keep Talking! Its fuel to Donivines fire! which burns deep for this city, team! and program! Now if this is how we are going to treat the local talent that stays home, Depaul, the Illini, Kansas st, will take our guys! I want the local talent to want to stay here, I want the BCS to say " we cant get him hes from Peoria and is going to Bradley, dont waste the trip"!

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