BU 48 - MSU 51 Final

[Chico]

I do not see anyone "attacking" Geno. Stating his record is not "attacking" him. So far, the only attacks I have seen here are those directed at other posters who some don't agree with, and those will not be tolerated.

Sorry Coach, maybe "attacking" was the wrong word. Hard to attack his past won, loss record no matter where it was at or against.

[Da Coach]

With no one who can shoot the ball, yes. Do you think Geno should have cleaned house even before year 1? Because nearly all of these guys that can't shoot straight were inherited by him...

We have no one who can shoot the ball?
All these guys that can't shoot straight?
It seems like you are the one attacking the players.
What kind of shooting percentage would be acceptable?

Our starters are shooting 45%, 50%, 38%, 47%, and 38% which is not exactly "can't shoot straight".
We have 3 starters shooting at 36.5% or better from three, which is better than the league average.

[Tulsa Brave]

We have no one who can shoot the ball?
All these guys that can't shoot straight?
It seems like you are the one attacking the players.
What kind of shooting percentage would be acceptable?

Our starters are shooting 45%, 50%, 38%, 47%, and 38% which is not exactly "can't shoot straight".
We have 3 starters shooting at 36.5% or better from three, which is better than the league average.

We rank 217th of 345 in 2-pt FG% (8th in MVC), 237th in 3-pt FG% (8th in MVC), and 199th in FT% (8th in MVC). If you call that acceptable shooting, then fine. I personally do not see it as good enough to compete in the MVC. Combine that with the fact that we turn the ball over on 21.3% of our possessions (which ranks 208th nationally, and again, 8th in MVC), and our record is right where you'd expect it to be.

[Da Coach]

The problem is not the guys he inherited-
Taylor Brown is shooting 45.2%, 37.5% on threes
Walt Lemon is shooting 49.7%, 36.6% on threes
Dyricus Simms-Edwards is shooting 37.6%, 36.5% on threes
Jordan Prosser is shooting 46.6%
Anthony Thompson is shooting 55.8%
Jake Eastman is shooting 37.4%, 25.4% on threes

Those are mostly all decent shooting percentages except Jakes three point percentage, and he shoots significantly less of them than the other inherited players.

The really ugly shooting percentages belong to the players he did not "inherit". The "inherited" players have mostly played well, but if you feel better blaming the players, that's your perogative.

[Bravesfan]

We rank 217th of 345 in 2-pt FG% (8th in MVC), 237th in 3-pt FG% (8th in MVC), and 199th in FT% (8th in MVC). If you call that acceptable shooting, then fine. I personally do not see it as good enough to compete in the MVC. Combine that with the fact that we turn the ball over on 21.3% of our possessions (which ranks 208th nationally, and again, 8th in MVC), and our record is right where you'd expect it to be.

No, I think I would expect our record to be 8th in the Valley. But we are 10th, and that should be better, even in a rebuilding year with a new coach.

[Bravesfan]

The problem is not the guys he inherited-
Taylor Brown is shooting 45.2%, 37.5% on threes
Walt Lemon is shooting 49.7%, 36.6% on threes
Dyricus Simms-Edwards is shooting 37.6%, 36.5% on threes
Jordan Prosser is shooting 46.6%
Anthony Thompson is shooting 55.8%
Jake Eastman is shooting 37.4%, 25.4% on threes

Those are mostly all decent shooting percentages except Jakes three point percentage, and he shoots significantly less of them than the other inherited players.

The really ugly shooting percentages belong to the players he did not "inherit". The "inherited" players have mostly played well, but if you feel better blaming the players, that's your perogative.

I'll be honest. Those are better shooting percentages than I thought. Watching our offense struggle at times makes it seem like we shoot a lot worse than those numbers indicate. My guess is that we lose a lot due to all of our players not clicking on the same night, and because of our suspect defense, despite the defense playing well two of the last three games.

Anyway, even though this post was not directed at me, thanks for posting those stats DC.

[Tulsa Brave]

No, I think I would expect our record to be 8th in the Valley. But we are 10th, and that should be better, even in a rebuilding year with a new coach.

If I listed all the team's stats in all the categories, you could certainly argue that we should be 9th, not 8th. And that is a valid argument. Somehow, and I'm not really sure how, that team we should be ahead of has won 3 MVC games (and 1 against us...we'll try to even that score in a couple days). We are ahead of that one team in all 4 categories. We are ahead of two other teams in two of the categories, but both those teams are far ahead of us in the remaining two categories. Our total score of 32 (8+8+8+8 ) would put us 9th in the league.

[Old Coach]

That is a completely different issue. Networks cannot afford to do local broadcasting that pre-empts network shows. That is where most of their money comes from.

I am referring to a comparison between what the broadcasters are seeing this year compared to the last few years. It is way down. I think it can still recover, but it could also go the other way. I can assure you they are very concerned.

WTVP can afford to produce the games at a loss because of the way that it's funded. I'm sure that WMBD's revenues are down a bit this year, but TV and radio revenues have been on a slow decline since 2008-2009 (in general). And by the way, there was a time when WEEK did make a profit producing Bradley basketball, even when network programming was pre-empted.

I just re-read your post and wanted to add this. Most revenues for the local networks do not come from prime programming. Most revenue comes from locally produced newscasts.

[BradleyJD]

MAJORITY????? You mean LOUD MINORITY!!!!!!

No, I meant majority.

[Old Coach]

The problem is not the guys he inherited-
Taylor Brown is shooting 45.2%, 37.5% on threes
Walt Lemon is shooting 49.7%, 36.6% on threes
Dyricus Simms-Edwards is shooting 37.6%, 36.5% on threes
Jordan Prosser is shooting 46.6%
Anthony Thompson is shooting 55.8%
Jake Eastman is shooting 37.4%, 25.4% on threes

Those are mostly all decent shooting percentages except Jakes three point percentage, and he shoots significantly less of them than the other inherited players.

The really ugly shooting percentages belong to the players he did not "inherit". The "inherited" players have mostly played well, but if you feel better blaming the players, that's your perogative.

Taylor and Walt's numbers are good for sure. AT's numbers are ok for a bench player, but he doesn't get enough shots in the game to be relevant. The others are bad, no two ways around it.

[BradleyJD]

Come on guys, please stop attacking Geno over his past record. He's our coach now. He didn't fire Jim, he was hired to replace him that's all. Let hope him and JL both turn their new programs around.

Agreed, Chico.

I don't understand why we attack the guy who is trying to turn BU back around.

He has 0 of his own players. That is not a shot at the guys here. They are working hard every day. But we all know coaches want to have guys exactly recruited to play a certain style.

I do not understand why you attack a guy in year 1 but we were never allowed to discuss a guy in years 7, 8, or 9.

This will take time.

[Da Coach]

Sorry Coach, maybe "attacking" was the wrong word...

Agreed, Chico.

I don't understand why we attack the guy who is trying to turn BU back around.

Please stop trying to turn this into something it is not. There have been no attacks on Coach Ford. Even Chico admitted it was a wrong choice of words.

[BradleyJD]

Please stop trying to turn this into something it is not. There have been no attacks on Coach Ford.

Oh sorry, I guess I misread this.

The bottom line is Geno is in over his head

[lefty]

Please stop trying to turn this into something it is not. There have been no attacks on Coach Ford. Even Chico admitted it was a wrong choice of words.

Negative posts on this thread started with post #12 and #35 and #38.....

[BradleyJD]

Negative posts on this thread started with post #12 and #35 and #38.....

The thing is this.....

I was "negative" with Jim, and I admit that. But, again, that was year 9. this is year 1. If you don't like him, just say it. Even if it is way way too early.