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bu fan 9 is a long time fan and financial supporter of BU. I think bu fan 9's point, and a point of concern of many donors, is that the accomplishments do not seem to merit the massive contract BU is paying.
Where does the money come from?
That should be the plan of every Bradley coach. Real fan is closer to what I would be looking for with an answer. Is the plan to bring in JUCO's, recruit Chicago more aggressively, recruit local players more aggressively, send current players to specific skill camps??? Unless I am missing something which could be the case, I haven't heard of a plan from Geno or from anybody on the Hilltop for that matter. --not that he should readily volunteer that information-- Yet I see a lot of people stating that we now have a plan. Just a curiosity of mine..
I think that one of JL's mistakes is that he recruited too many athletes instead of basketball players and his guards had similar skill sets that weren't really compatible with his system. i.e. lack of outside shooters...
I think you answered your own question Beninator. Geno doesn't have time to volunteer that information because he is in the middle of the season right now. I'm sure all of this info regarding JUCO's and where the recruits will come from will be answered after the season ends.
Agreed about JL recruiting too many athletes over pure shooters. There is nothing wrong with recruiting athletes (which is tough to do at the mid-major level, so Les deserves credit there). But what good is that if they can't display proper basketball fundamentals. So yes, we do need to recruit more pure shooters that can fit Geno's system.
I'll support Geno, and I hope he can turn this downturn around quickly. But there is no way Bradley would be anywhere close to where they are now if not for all the fallout from the changes imposed.
Yeah...amazing how far we have fallen from the dizzying heights of last season
We are in this exact predicament because of Jim Les, period!
To borrow your line, if you can't see that BU is in a hole because of Jim Les, then I doubt anything will change your mind.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
the PJS seems to be doing what you asked for- they aren't as negative.....
then you haven't read nor remembered anything I have ever said...
I simply want fairness - not constant biased negativity - nor rose colored glasses and constant praise for what replaced JL when the facts are - they simply do not deserve it...
is it too much to ask that they call it like it is?
I don' think the kids are talentless (as the PJS has said - the gap being as wide as the Grand Canyon) - nor do I think they are playing particularly well - but I think it is clear they are not playing well within the system that is being used...
Does anyone think a hurried, fade-away 3 pointer by a shooter who's only hitting a little over 20% is the type of shot we should be getting when we need just one point to avoid the loss?
Finally as posed elsewhere -- how many years is fair to ask for some positive results?
3, 4, maybe 5...shouldn't five years begin to produce something somewhere? We are now 5 years into the post-Broski era...name the athletic programs that are doing better, drawing better attendances, or at a better stage now that when Broski left...come on -- should be at least one, right??
...I am waiting........lots of people gave their money so by now something ought to be noticable with more wins, more glory, more national press....
and don't get into the debate about the new facilities - since the biggest part of all the gifts from Markin, Puterbaugh, and Cat were all committed pre-2007..and the plans were all underway even by the end of 2006..
Yeah...amazing how far we have fallen from the dizzying heights of last season
We are in this exact predicament because of Jim Les, period!
To borrow your line, if you can't see that BU is in a hole because of Jim Les, then I doubt anything will change your mind.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but IMO you are flat wrong. This team would be much better if the changes had not been forced upon them. And again the Jim Les detractors want us to believe that the 2010-2011 season was all the result of poor coaching, when reality is much different. History and the fans will judge the JL tenure by the successes he had when injuries were not such a massive factor.
Can anyone name a single midmajor team that had a successful season with 2 preseason all-conference players sidelined for the entire year?
But unfortnately, it doesn't really matter because even the great and loyal fans that have been with Bradley through all the ups and downs are not likely to continue to support this program if it continues in the downward direction that the changes have now taken it.
well, what is wrong with defending the very school you claim to be a fan of?
can someone give a definition of hypocrisy??
I have one, a fan who repeatedly finds something or some reason to trash their supposed own team/school
...as if a school wants 10,000 more fans like that???..just sayin'...
I ask you the same question you asked not even two years ago. It seems now defending the team/school is wrong.
As far as the PJS being balanced, can you honestly say there were never any positive articles about Coach Les? In nine years? Never? I'd be willing to bet that if you look at all the articles from year one of his reign and year one of Geno you might see the they compare fairly. That is unless youre looking to nitpick in order to prove a point.
But unfortnately, it doesn't really matter because even the great and loyal fans that have been with Bradley through all the ups and downs are not likely to continue to support this program if it continues in the downward direction that the changes have now taken it.
That is exactly why Jim WAS fired. The majority of the fan base was tired of JIM leading BU on the downward direction.
Now, Geno has to try and rebuild from the fallout of Jim's coaching.
Can Geno do it? Who knows, there are no guarantees. But we can clearly see that Jim was always going to be about a .500 coach. The administrators and fans were willing to see if we couldn't do better than that.
IMO, BU had to try. They had to show they wanted more. Otherwise, we were always going to be talking about next year and injuries and bad luck.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Let's all be honest here. How many on this board think the Braves would have been as bad as they were last season if Sam and TB would have been playing? I really don't care anymore though. JL is gone, and I wish he wasn't, but Geno is here and I think we owe him all our support in his attempt to turn things around. Good luck Geno.
Let's all be honest here. How many on this board think the Braves would have been as bad as they were last season if Sam and TB would have been playing? I really don't care anymore though. JL is gone, and I wish he wasn't, but Geno is here and I think we owe him all our support in his attempt to turn things around. Good luck Geno.
I absolutely think we would have been better this year (although Sammy is hurting so its hard to say how much better). The real question is would we be better 2 or 3 years from now? I dont have the answer for that and neither does anybody else. All I have is my opinion which is no more right or wrong than anyone else here. What we will have in 3 years is the ability to look at Genos record and JLs history. Until then its going to be a long ride of speculation and bitterness.
Let's all be honest here. How many on this board think the Braves would have been as bad as they were last season if Sam and TB would have been playing? I really don't care anymore though. JL is gone, and I wish he wasn't, but Geno is here and I think we owe him all our support in his attempt to turn things around. Good luck Geno.
We would have been better last year, most likely around 15 or 16 wins.....middle is the pack in MVC.
I agree...we should be supporting Geno!
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
bu fan 9 is a long time fan and financial supporter of BU. I think bu fan 9's point, and a point of concern of many donors, is that the accomplishments do not seem to merit the massive contract BU is paying.
Where does the money come from?
That's a good point, and I see where he is coming from. That's great bu fan 9 is a loyal supporter of BU, and I hope our team's future accomplishments match the money that we paid Geno. Good point about us paying Geno's paycheck, and we definitely want to see results that match!
bu fan 9 is a long time fan and financial supporter of BU. I think bu fan 9's point, and a point of concern of many donors, is that the accomplishments do not seem to merit the massive contract BU is paying.
Where does the money come from?
I'm proud to not be a part of your "many". I find it interesting that when I'm talking to fellow donors, I don't seem to run into these same "many" and "majorities" that you like to reference.
That's fine. I know many fans and donors who are not happy with where this program has been taken.
I suggest you talk to people who broadcast the games on TV or radio and ask them how their advertising is going and how their sponsors feel.
And if we needed any more proof that the local media are now wearing the ROSE COLORED GLASSES...
note the two stories this morning by DR & KW..
You would have thought we'd played the best game all year! -- glowing with compliments....hardly anything realistic or on target for most who watched this game...
Comments like...
"Braves proving they??™re capable"
"If you didn??™t know Bradley was the last-place team in the Missouri Valley, you would not have guessed by watching this game."
"Boy, he was good tonight..More good stuff about the Braves.."
"Doing those things well in the future might allow Bradley to climb out of the MVC cellar."
"..excellent for most of the game.."
Seriously - did they not see all the totally unforced turnovers?
And all the hurried, ill-advised and forced shots...
..and despite good shooting by JP - our team still shot 37% from the floor and 19% from 3-pt...
This was actually one of our worst games -- we can't even beat a team on our own court that was way off and scoring only 50 pts...
But we were way off in our shooting as well, and they just made the plays down the stretch.
I thought we played a better game overall than most of our Valley games. The shots just simply were'nt falling tonight - the shot selection was decent - maybe should have tried to go with some easier looks when the outside shots weren't falling.
But we put together 2 solid halves, which is what I was hoping for. DSE - really tough night, and if he plays like that, we have NO chance of winning unless TB and someone else have monster games...and let's face it - our bench just isn't going to give us much production this year.
Great defensive effort all night - proud of the guys. What more can you say?
Shots just didn't fall tonight, and we don't have the shooters that are consistent when a couple guys are off.
Another test Tuesday when we try to shrug this one off and play SIU tough on the road, where we've really struggled.
Let's get the close losses out of the way this year.
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