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At the end of the day this team can not score on a consistent basis against good defensive teams..need to get rid of about 5 players and give him 5 schollys for next year and they can get better quicker..otherwise you are losing a good scorer and still have no shooters so next year may look the same as this...hard to believe some of these guys are on scholarship.
Maybe this deserves its own thread, I don't know.....I have heard this comment around town a lot and I have read versions of it on this board and others. IMO its not going to happen.
No way that many players would have their scholarships taken. If that type of thing happened at Bradley or any other school their would be major damage done to their APR number that the NCAA monitors. In addition, other school would surely use that info against us when dealing with future recruits.
The NCAA just adopted new and stricter standards for schools/coaches to abide by. These new standards take effect for the 2012-13 season. The number schools must now meet is a 930. That is basically a 50% graduation rate. The old number was 925. So for example.....if a coach brings in 3 scholarship players 2 years in a row, 3 of them must both stay in school AND graduate to meet the NCAA minimum standards. Every year, the school generates a new APR number and that is averaged in your overall number for 4 years. So....if we were to lose multiple players after this season, for any reason (not renewed or they chose to leave), the APR hit would stay with us for 4 years. The penalties include lost scholarships and no NCAA post season play. Some may argue we won't be in any post season games anyway but that is a different argument.
In my opinion that is way to much of a risk because of all the unforeseen problems that will pop up in the future with players/recruits. Players leave schools all the time for many other reasons: injury, playing time issues, mistakes, home sick, etc. A coach/school can deal with losing a player or 2 occasionally and still be fine as long as the other scholarship players in that class, and the previous 3, take of business in the classroom. A mass exodus of 5 or more in a season.....no way.
Did they say on the post game what zone they were playing? It looked more like a 1-3-1 at times but at one point in was strung out like a 1-2-1-1 (more like a diamond and one if a full court press). It was awkward, but obviously affective. It looked like a zone specifically for a team like UNI that heavily relies on the three point shot.
At the end of the day this team can not score on a consistent basis against good defensive teams..need to get rid of about 5 players and give him 5 schollys for next year and they can get better quicker..otherwise you are losing a good scorer and still have no shooters so next year may look the same as this...hard to believe some of these guys are on scholarship.
Even harder to believe our scholarship guys could beat UNI's scholarship guys.
Did they say on the post game what zone they were playing? It looked more like a 1-3-1 at times but at one point in was strung out like a 1-2-1-1 (more like a diamond and one if a full court press). It was awkward, but obviously affective. It looked like a zone specifically for a team like UNI that heavily relies on the three point shot.
Just saw this post. I posted something similar in another thread. I am intrigued to know just what kind of zone we were running and how it operates.
Just saw this post. I posted something similar in another thread. I am intrigued to know just what kind of zone we were running and how it operates.
There wasn't much discussed about it, but in his postgame press conference, Geno briefly said they played more than 1 type of zone and switched them up.
I thought it was predominantly a 2-3, but at times looked like 1-3-1.
There wasn't much discussed about it, but in his postgame press conference, Geno briefly said they played more than 1 type of zone and switched them up.
I thought it was predominantly a 2-3, but at times looked like 1-3-1.
I told my wife they were in 1-3-1 out of a timeout, but once the ball went to the opposite side, it looked more like a traditional 2-3. Whatever it was, for that game, it worked.
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Ben- other than the tumblers, the HOF inductions, or Quick Change - why would you ever stay and watch the halftime stuff?
Oh T, it is for the edge of your seat chance...yes the chance to see a promotion that can top Basketball Bowling! Sadly Basketball Bowling was only a time out promotion, but I think it needs to be expanded for quality halftime entertainment. Come on guys, we have a giant scoreboard, let's get some use out of it!
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
I told my wife they were in 1-3-1 out of a timeout, but once the ball went to the opposite side, it looked more like a traditional 2-3. Whatever it was, for that game, it worked.
It looked to me like a 2-3 with a lot of rotation and heavy emphasis on guarding the perimeter players.
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
...and give him 5 schollys for next year and they can get ......
gerry - just how many capable players are out there that we can get to play in fall of 2012 ?
I think it could be a step backwards to lose that many players - and we'd have the kind of chaos they have at SIU with 4 and 5 new players changing over and nobody staying more than 1 or 2 years before leaving...
The real future should include getting what we can for next year - but really going hard for the talent that's available for fall of 2013....
We will have at least 4 or 5 or more rides for 2013 but if we tie some of them up with marginal 2012 signees, then we simply have more people going to be riding the bench...
gerry - just how many capable players are out there that we can get to play in fall of 2012 ?
I think it could be a step backwards to lose that many players - and we'd have the kind of chaos they have at SIU with 4 and 5 new players changing over and nobody staying more than 1 or 2 years before leaving...
The real future should include getting what we can for next year - but really going hard for the talent that's available for fall of 2013....
We will have at least 4 or 5 or more rides for 2013 but if we tie some of them up with marginal 2012 signees, then we simply have more people going to be riding the bench...
This is the practical side of the argument, and it makes alot of sense. I think there are a couple of people who should look for opportunities elsewhere if they want PT, and one was a late signee... Then again one I believe was the first player to sign in the the class of 2011. But the point is, new bodies aren't neccesarily better bodies. Geno needs to get solid contributors in and if they aren't out, bank the 'ship.
The pragmatic side of the argument is that any player who has been given a scholarship, works hard to improve, and maintains his grades, whether we crack the rotation or not, should be allowed and encouraged to stay at BU until they complete their degree.
every team has players sitting the bench, not playing much at all, not very productive by some standards..but who will blossom - let's not give up on 'em yet...
remember a guy who played just 11 minutes per game as a freshman, didn't look particulary awesome - in fact looked terrible at times,
shot only 16% from 3-pt range, only 57% on FT's, and averaged a meager 3 ppg?? Even Sam Singh's numbers dwarfed his production...
but now, Taylor Brown is one of the best 2 or 3 players in the entire league...
Oh T, it is for the edge of your seat chance...yes the chance to see a promotion that can top Basketball Bowling! Sadly Basketball Bowling was only a time out promotion, but I think it needs to be expanded for quality halftime entertainment. Come on guys, we have a giant scoreboard, let's get some use out of it!
All promotions should be just that, halftime entertainment, if you can call most of them entertainment.
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