Bradley 83 Creighton 92 - Final

[Da Coach]

People aren't seeing the whole picture. With JL at the helm, this site tolerated exponentially more criticism of JL, and criticism that was much more biting than the "Jalen needs to D up" type comments of this year. It kept escalating to the point where it was personal and hateful. People weren't banned, at least in my opinion, for having a problem with JL. People were banned for being *****s. I would assume if someone started being just as *****ic with post after post after post of hateful attacks towards GF, the same hammer would fall. Am I wrong?

Correct.

[Old Coach]

One man's excuse is another man's reason.

[shaunguth]

It's about how he does as a coach.

Ok....so switch up the starting lineup.....try SOMETHING! Get the other kids in the games....you know, the players you're supposedly rebuilding the program with. What's to lose at this point.....another game?

[BradleyJD]

Ok....so switch up the starting lineup.....try SOMETHING! Get the other kids in the games....you know, the players you're supposedly rebuilding the program with. What's to lose at this point.....another game?

I've no problem with that idea.

[Air Petey]

Depends who you ask I suppose.

Regardless...after a W tonight, we can focus on that

After a W by whom..... Illinois?? Once again, it sure was not the Braves.

They keep this up, my 1-9 prediction will be off by 1 win!

[tornado]

...discuss how "great" people over here thought Bradley would be if there was no coaching change. ..

you think we'd have been this bad?

per Kirk Wessler...
"Their record is 5-12, and they are 0-5 in the Missouri Valley for a reason.
They’re bad."

[BradleyJD]

you think we'd have been this bad?

per Kirk Wessler...
"Their record is 5-12, and they are 0-5 in the Missouri Valley for a reason.
They??™re bad."

Yes, I think we would have been this bad, or very close to it. Maybe 1 or 2 games different.

[SFP]

Yes, I think we would have been this bad, or very close to it. Maybe 1 or 2 games different.

Not even close. We would be at least .500 in league play. It would have been a different more balanced club. I'm not going to argue what the upside down the road would be but a JL SM led team would be a more complete team. SM would play the 1, the 2-3 position would be handled by WL, DSE, JE, Abel and the 4 by TB and SH with the 5 going to JP, SH and AT. Fundamentally you have a more balanced team with some moving parts. SM would have made DSE,TB and WL much better players and given us a 3 point threat. I really believe there is not much to argue.

[BradleyJD]

Not even close. We would be at least .500 in league play. It would have been a different more balanced club. I'm not going to argue what the upside down the road would be but a JL SM led team would be a more complete team. SM would play the 1, the 2-3 position would be handled by WL, DSE, JE, Abel and the 4 by TB and SH with the 5 going to JP, SH and AT. Fundamentally you have a more balanced team with some moving parts. SM would have made DSE,TB and WL much better players and given us a 3 point threat. I really believe there is not much to argue.

Well SM would be on the bench injured. So how could he be playing the 1?

I don't know how Remy would be at all, so I can't address that.

I did say 1 or 2 games better. I think SM, when playing, would give us a chance at a couple more W's.

[Buesch N Chips]

Either way, we would not be having an acceptable season from a WL standpoint.

[tornado]

I am not so sure - who really knows......
at Illinois Sammy began intensively training and practicing for team play way early in July to prepare for that Italian trip
where he played more minutes than anyone else did in a 6 game foreign tour that included two overtime games-
and the exhibition against Bob Huggins' West Virginia Mountaineers at the Italian Air Force Base...
followed immediately on the same court with no rest by a 2nd exhibition against the team of Aviano varsity unit players.

We don't know for sure...but had he stayed at Bradley things would be different ..and he'd have significantly less games and fewer workouts & practices..

[BradleyJD]

We don't know for sure...but had he stayed at Bradley things would be different ..and he'd have significantly less games and fewer workouts & practices..

I agree he'd have less games/practices. However, he probably also would have had much more pressure on him and many more minutes/game.

We will never know.

[TheAsianSensation]

Not even close. We would be at least .500 in league play. It would have been a different more balanced club. I'm not going to argue what the upside down the road would be but a JL SM led team would be a more complete team. SM would play the 1, the 2-3 position would be handled by WL, DSE, JE, Abel and the 4 by TB and SH with the 5 going to JP, SH and AT. Fundamentally you have a more balanced team with some moving parts. SM would have made DSE,TB and WL much better players and given us a 3 point threat. I really believe there is not much to argue.

I think there is much to argue, because it's predicated upon major minutes for SM at PG to mask our lack of depth at that position - I'm not sure he would've held up all season, whether or not he got the rest in the scenario t outlined. That said, I can buy the argument that Abell would've contributed (not starred, mind you, but contributed) and Lemon would be much, much better utilized at the 2. I still think we'd have inside problems, though, and I don't see that team being in the top half of the Valley (6th is my prediction) in front of MSU or InSU. I feel like 15-16 (8-10) would be the peak in that scenario.

edit: And this is my way of saying the non TB/SM players aren't impact players, so I have a tough time thinking we'd win consistency without a dependable 3rd wheel. If you wanted to argue otherwise, I'm fine with that and if you wanted to say 18-13 (10-8 ) as a peak, that's reasonable. But anything more and I feel like we're over-evaluating our current talent.

[Air Petey]

........ I still think we'd have inside problems, though, and I don't see that team being in the top half of the Valley (6th is my prediction) in front of MSU or InSU. I feel like 15-16 (8-10) would be the peak in that scenario.

I have heard many times, JL was fired with the fear this years team would go 14-4 in the Valley and tough to fire a coach after a season like that. I will admit 14-4 would be perfect, because we would lose to WSU and CU twice. But I could see if JL stayed, 11-7 or 12-6 Valley season (and yes... probably 4th or 5th in the Valley).

I know..... So mediocre and unacceptable in the Valley if 4th or 5th! ... I've heard that a few time also.

[BuB]

No more 'Pick Em' this season?

Don't you dare Az. I finally had a good week and beat the Penny. 5 for 5 Now you want to add to the fallout.