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Bradley 83 Creighton 92 - Final
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My simple comment about not thinking we played hard was clearly stated to be referring to the SIU debacle. Yet it was taken out of context and used as an example of some kind of generalized criticism toward the team. There are some who want to try to make a false case that some of our posters are now hypocritical for such criticism, when it doesn't exist.
As I've said before, the only hypocrisy is from those who reveled in criticizing and condemning every coaching move, every timeout, every substitution, every game plan, and every action (including foot stomps) by the previous coach and assistants, and who are now absolutely intolerant of anyone who has any comment now.
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Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post2 things...
One, it is fair to say year 1 vs. 9. Geno is in his first year at Bradley. Jim was in his 9th year. Just because someone coached before it isn't like he brings all his players with him. I don't understand why that is not easy to see.
Secondly, where in my post did I say the "cupboard" was bare. I never said that.
As to the "Bare Cupboard" I did not mean you specific... just tired of past post referring to this.It's not Business, It's Personal
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Originally posted by Air Petey View PostI feel 1 vs. 9 observation is not fair. GOOD coaches can evaluate talent and play the best players at the best spots along with a good rotation. Geno has good players on the floor but just becuase they don't play to "his style" would mean he can only coach a certain style.
As to the "Bare Cupboard" I did not mean you specific... just tired of past post referring to this.What part of illegal don't you understand?
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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostAs I've said before, the only hypocrisy is from those who reveled in criticizing and condemning every coaching move, every timeout, every substitution, every game plan, and every action (including foot stomps) by the previous coach and assistants, and who are now absolutely intolerant of anyone who has any comment now.
I suspect the people who were criticing JL would do the same with GF after 9 years on the job with similar results to JL.
The only people who take intentional shots at GF now are ones who are still emotionally attached to JL and his departure, or, who didn't want GF to get the job. No other reason to take shots at GF after 5 games with the line up he has.
BU players may receive gentle criticism for not trying or putting out max effort. That is within their own control, no matter what their physical/mental ability to play basketball is. If they want/expect unconditional fans, this is the minimum they need to deliver.
PS BU's problems wouldn't be solved with SM and RA on their team. Look at the talent BU has had in the previous couple seasons WITH SM and/or AW or TB on the floor with WE... They may not still be looking for their 1st MVC win by now, but, would not challenge for top of MVC....since they never did before.BUilding for the Future
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Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
I suspect the people who were criticing JL would do the same with GF after 9 years on the job with similar results to JL.
The only people who take intentional shots at GF now are ones who are still emotionally attached to JL and his departure, or, who didn't want GF to get the job. No other reason to take shots at GF after 5 games with the line up he has.
Very well said!When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Commenting on the game or the results does not equal "taking shots at Geno". Lets stop painting anyone we don't agree with as being attached to the past. That is ridiculous, and an intellectually lazy and shallow argument.
Final warning...feel free to comment about the games, team, etc. No further negative comments directed toward other posters.
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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostCommenting on the game or the results does not equal "taking shots at Geno". Lets stop painting anyone we don't agree with as being attached to the past. That is ridiculous, and an intellectually lazy and shallow argument.
He was also correct, at least with how I view the situation, that I will call GF out the same way I did with JL if he does not right the ship in years 3, 4, 5. It is not personal. It's about how he does as a coach.
I think some felt every comment about JL was somehow personal. It was about the coaching, not the man.When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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People aren't seeing the whole picture. With JL at the helm, this site tolerated exponentially more criticism of JL, and criticism that was much more biting than the "Jalen needs to D up" type comments of this year. It kept escalating to the point where it was personal and hateful. People weren't banned, at least in my opinion, for having a problem with JL. People were banned for being *****s. I would assume if someone started being just as *****ic with post after post after post of hateful attacks towards GF, the same hammer would fall. Am I wrong?
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Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View PostPeople aren't seeing the whole picture. With JL at the helm, this site tolerated exponentially more criticism of JL, and criticism that was much more biting than the "Jalen needs to D up" type comments of this year. It kept escalating to the point where it was personal and hateful. People weren't banned, at least in my opinion, for having a problem with JL. People were banned for being *****s. I would assume if someone started being just as *****ic with post after post after post of hateful attacks towards GF, the same hammer would fall. Am I wrong?
Regardless...after a W tonight, we can focus on thatWhen the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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