I'm convinced...

[Air Petey]

Things can get worse......

A. We can start cheating to get great players and good kids in here.
B. We can get THUGS in here and we will start reading about Bradley players in the criminal section (But good grade point averages means nothing versus WINNING).

It can get worse in the next two or three years.

Grass in not always greener on the other side.


It's not Business.... It's Personal.

[jrish12]

I have no personal feelings for KW, so please don't make this about me. I like his coverage of the Bears and Cardinals. It was a glossy puff piece, and a complete opposite of what we saw from the same author for the past 4 years. But that's fine. I understand his reasons. And no, I did not think the team "played hard".

I think most fans expected better, and yet can you deny that things are much worse? I guess we don't really need to play well or win, because we are just building for 2 or 3 years from now. Unfortunately, fans are paying good money now to watch this.

Wow, im going to call BS on this one....

you still cant get it through your head that year 1 for a coach is not the same as year 9.

[wily coyote]

Then he tries to make excuses for the poor performance. Funny, but I don't seem to ever recall Kirk making excuses for the previous coaches?-
When a program has so many shortcomings ??” no true point guard ready to play Division I ball, an undersized post, poor perimeter shooters, little experience, less depth (just a few things to get the discussion going) ??” it??™s going to be difficult, if not impossible, to get everything working correctly.

DC some how I missed your point. IN your 3rd sentence KW is not only telling the truth but he is telling the brutal truth and our previou coach put all but 2 of the players on our roster in this position. We all want BU to be successful but the last regime put us into a situation that is going to take time and that's the brutal truth.

[Da Coach]

The previous coach must have been a heck of a coach to have 5 winning seasons out of 6 with players that are not D1 caliber.

[Bradleyfan1]

Noone can want a Bradley coach to fail and be considered a fan!

I see very little with this team except effort, I would agree with KW today, I will not blame any Bradley fan for feelings of negitivity, I will support these players till the end! There is enough talent on this team to see a better product on the floor, My main beef is the lack of use of all of the players, not ready doesnt work for me, not ready to what? lose? if this is a rebuilding yr then shouldnt Geno be wanting to know what all of his players can do in game situations. Practice doesnt matter that much I mean really how many amazing basketball players were not practice players and how many have been great in practice and average in games, I just wanna see the book wide open to anything and everything, Say this one thing I would like to see it be defense pressure but whatever the coach and team deem as " the one thing we hang our hat on is this" and milk it till its dry. Here is to one "W" once we get that go into repeat mode the offseason is for getting better now is about winning games! Thanks everyone for anything you say or do to help this program take a turn in the right direction!

[Da Coach]

... Why has everything changed here?

What I find ironic is that some of the most negative people who have tried to poison this board and others for the last couple years with their negativity and constant personal attacks, are now all worried about the tone here. That's the only change here.

We are in the middle of a 6-game losing streak; we have had back to back home losses, one that was the worst in 108 years and the other was a complete domination by a horrible team with a lame duck coach, and people expect there to be all smiles. Amazing.

And yet unlike other forums, and some of the negative people from the past couple years we see not a single post calling for a coach to be fired, there are no posts attacking anyone personally, nobody is attacking other posters, except those of you who continue to attack me, and everything here is a civil and clean discussion. We are loyal fans who want to see the team and program succeed.

[rsmit84]

What I find ironic is that some of the most negative people who have tried to poison this board and others for the last couple years with their negativity and constant personal attacks, are now all worried about the tone here. That's the only change here.

We are in the middle of a 6-game losing streak; we have had back to back home losses, one that was the worst in 108 years and the other was a complete domination by a horrible team with a lame duck coach, and people expect there to be all smiles. Amazing.

And yet unlike other forums, and some of the negative people from the past couple years we see not a single post calling for a coach to be fired, there are no posts attacking anyone personally, nobody is attacking other posters, except those of you who continue to attack me, and everything here is a civil and clean discussion. We are loyal fans who want to see the team and program succeed.

Can you answer the question about recruits reading this board? Why does it always come back to other people changing? I want to know why you, the person who owns this place, are so different? Do you often change your beliefs and actions because other people are doing it?

[lefty]

Who started this thread anyway?....

I stand by my original statement....

[tornado]

Can you answer the question about recruits reading this board? I'm not asking about the trashers, flamers, and trollers. I'm asking why the people running this board have seemingly fundamentally changed?

OK -- I find absolutely NO criticism on this board by posters - of the players -- so how can that deter recruits...

AND -- certainly you cannot accuse me of being negative towards players & coaches - I am defending our guys 100% all the time - and if you want to see for yourself - just look each time the players enter onto or leave the court and see who is THE ONLY PERSON who is standing, greeting, cheering, slapping high fives, encouraging, and heaping praise on our players and our coaches. Are you doing the same? - I hope so...but sadly many of those ripping on message boards are people I know and can identify personally and they are no where in sight - simply hiding and blaming...


Anyway - Why in heaven's name are you suddenly concerned about what a recruit might think after several years of constant bashing of JL, coaching, Sammy, AW, Jake, and many other players....(mostly on TOB)

Almost everyone here loves our players, supports them, encourages them - but Kirk Wessler is constantly trashing the players heaping criticism & blame on them and we are standing up for the players!

I see no change here -- only a continued selfish, blame the players & blame the coaches attitude on the part of some that is no different than before..

[Chico]

Please, Braves start winning. Can't take much more of this.

[tornado]

I have not changed, I am still 100% positive but I can't control what other people get miserable about

[amettrick]

This thread has become rather amusing.

It clearly shows the hypocrisy from certain members of the board have gone from having seemingly endless patience with the previous coach to basically none with the new one. Who have gone from admonishing any sort of criticism of the Braves to being some of the most critical. One can only guess why...

I get that people are frustrated with bad losses, so am I, but is this not a rebuilding year? Did nobody else see this coming? We have a new coach who just took over a 20-loss program. It seemed fairly obvious to me that it would take more than half a season to turn things around. This team has a lot of weaknesses, and there are most certainly not all Geno Ford's fault. He's trying to do the best he can with what he has.

[Da Coach]

Can you answer the question about recruits reading this board? Why does it always come back to other people changing? I want to know why you, the person who owns this place, are so different? Do you often change your beliefs and actions because other people are doing it?

I have made my beliefs and opinions clear, more clear than anyone else on the message board. So go find someone else to try to harass.
I have been the most consistent fan here- I support the team and University. Like most fans, I want to see success. I haven't missed a home game, and have been to nearly every away game for decades, including the Wyoming game (which I was the only fan to make the trip other than the team charter). I really don't think I owe you or anyone else any substantiation of my fan support.
And OMG- why now are you worried about recruits reading the board when you and others have hammered the coach and program incessantly for so long?
Anyone who does not like anything here is free to leave. Why do you act like you are suffering like you have a gun to your head?

[BradleyJD]

I really don't think I owe you or anyone else any substantiation of my fan support.

No one ever does.

[shaunguth]

I get that people are frustrated with bad losses, so am I, but is this not a rebuilding year?

Yes.....so why is it seemingly wrong for people to question things such as style of play, effort, the starting lineup (which has only changed once and that was due to injury), etc.....?

As you say, this IS a rebuilding year and we have scholarship players just sitting on the bench!

Nevermind......we're not supposed to question this coach.....yet........