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  • #16
    Originally posted by TheGuy View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. You really think most high school kids are set in what they want to do with their life/career? How many times do kids change majors in college?
    Originally posted by OrangeandBlack74 View Post
    This point of view is sheer nonsense! He has completed his undergraduate degree, and wants to pursue a graduate degree in a field of study that St Joseph's doesn't offer. How much more clear-cut does it need to be for you?

    Wonder what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot? The St Joe's administration needs to take their collective heads out of the sand and do the right thing!
    Well said both of you!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
      It's clear cut you are not getting your release.
      What's clear-cut is that St Joseph's administration is acting like a bunch of spoiled brats who are pouting and stomping their feet about this player's ACADEMIC situation. If they can't have it their way...

      Reminds me of the pouty little kid at the baseball game who didn't get the foul ball that was hit into the stands.

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      • #18
        Since he started at Bucknell in 2007 and transferred once already (to Saint Joseph's) - his only options are
        -go D-II, D-III, or NAIA and can play right away and don't need a release from anyone
        -go anywhere and sit out a year an play basketball the following year if the NCAA will give you a 6th year (doubtful - but who knows?)
        -go anywhere but St. Joe's and give up basketball - or quit school and play pro
        -negotiate with St. Joe's and try to work out the issues - but now he's messed with that option by publishing this slam...

        He has instead chosen the option of writing this letter and trying to embarrass and coerce and get his way via this technique...
        ...remember - we really don't know all the facts and have not really heard the SJU side of the story.
        AS WAS per the TCS case - once we heard the whole story it made TCS and his dad look a little petty and dishonest for claiming there was a text message that they later admitted did NOT exist...

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        • #19
          This isn't soviet russia. People are allowed to have choices with what they want to do in life.

          I agree. This will be used against them in the recruiting process. My guess is that any damage done regarding recruiting is already irrepairable and that may be why they aren't budging now (makes no difference at this point).

          Any potential recruits will easily be able to google this story when investigating their choices.

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          • #20
            I used to respect Coach Martelli. I thought he was a really good coach at St. Joe's. After reading that article I would never let my kids go play basketball for him. He sounds like a big egotistical "richard". I don't understand why the AD can't overrule him on this one. It does not sound like he has any problem with it at all.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RedSoxDSM View Post
              I used to respect Coach Martelli. I thought he was a really good coach at St. Joe's. After reading that article I would never let my kids go play basketball for him. He sounds like a big egotistical "richard". I don't understand why the AD can't overrule him on this one. It does not sound like he has any problem with it at all.

              So what exactly is the difference between this and the Sam Maniscalco situation? Outside of the lack of a coaching change, there doesn't seem to be one. The guy wants to play basketball, who cares? He wound up on a weaker team in a weaker conference.

              Martelli has been vastly overrated for a long while. He has made a career off of Jameer Nelson and Delonte West.

              It would be better for St Joe's to have given the guy his release long before this. It is just bad PR and now looks very bad for Martelli.

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              • #22
                I don't think we can know the difference if we don't actually know the facts of either situation - except we do know that Bradley released Sam and had no intent to interfere with his transfer

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                • #23
                  Not sure why the magic M word (Maniscalco) was uttered. There's strong evidence that this transfer was academic-based, not athletic-based. This guy is a student who's looking to become an athlete too, while most other people who use this rule use it as an athlete who happens to be a student.

                  In fact, that's probably where the disconnect comes in. Martelli probably feels like he's got to be the one guy to stand up and prevent abuse of this transfer rule, yet his prevention is actually against a guy who's using it correctly in the spirit of the rule.

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                  • #24
                    I would have not let Sam out either.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                      He knew that 4 years ago when he chose that school. He should of went someplace else. No way I let him out or anyone else.
                      Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                      I would have not let Sam out either.
                      Who are you? Are you just trying to get under everyone's skin on purpose or do you believe in your posts. As much as I did not like SM leaving BU I would have been madder if BU did not release him. A person last I checked if they complied with the rules has the ability to transfer. I really hope you're not a judge.
                      "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                      ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                      • #26
                        Actually, there was a time when the NCAA's rules regarding scholarships were much more strict. Once a player left his school, he was entirely on his own. Maybe it's not such a bad idea.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                          Actually, there was a time when the NCAA's rules regarding scholarships were much more strict. Once a player left his school, he was entirely on his own. Maybe it's not such a bad idea.
                          Perhaps there was a change because it was unfair. I'd have to believe zero flexibility for the student would be completely unfair and I'd only go with it if a school would have to stick with a player no matter what for the 4 years.
                          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                          • #28
                            More backlash to St. Joseph's refusal to grant a release to one of its players...

                            The transfer rules in college basketball are bad enough when coaches don't abuse them.More often than not, when a player wants to transfer whether that's early in his career, or it's to take advantage of the rule that allows an athlete to play immediately if he transfers to pursue a graduate degree in a field not offered by his current school, or whenever his coach releases him.


                            Seems like the solution is pretty clear-cut!

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                            • #29
                              Interesting. articles.philly.com/2011-02-21/sports/28614454_1_laptop-student-athletes-xavier

                              But I am not sure it helps st joes position.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ph View Post
                                Interesting. articles.philly.com/2011-02-21/sports/28614454_1_laptop-student-athletes-xavier

                                But I am not sure it helps st joes position.
                                Whatever that team violation last February was about, O'Brien returned to the team after a 3 game suspension-

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