Bradley 81 UIC 72

[mike radigan]

Bradley is getting some very good shots coming out of timeouts. This is an area that has greatly improved for the Braves over the Les era.

In the SIUE game the bad guys ran a play out of the timeout for a monster dunk. I'm not sure, but I think we ran the same play Sunday. Regardless it was with the same result. Always willing to learn if that was the case.

it was a good game but and i was pretty surprised how many people came for a 2:00 sunday game- anyone have the attendance?

8860.

[Majik45]

JC, WF, and ZA all had great games today. I'm not too concerned about the lack of scoring from the other positions for 1 game, especially when Ruff was out.

ZA should dominate teams like this because he's so much more athletic then their big men. I think he's going to have a lot more trouble scoring in the Valley though, because the valley has some big athletic guys that can match up with him better. He'll still probably get 10-15 points a game, but I don't think we'll see any 25 point performances in the Valley.

I was impressed with Bradley today. To win fairly easily without Ruff was a good sign. Let's get him healthy, and I think we'll make a run to the upper half of the Valley.

[mexicobufan]

Has anyony noticed that the questions about Jims ability to coach have went away? I think the entire coaching staff has done a great job this year considering we have some depth issues and size issues. Its early but you have to be impresses with the teams preperation.

[BradleyBrave]

Has anyony noticed that the questions about Jims ability to coach have went away? I think the entire coaching staff has done a great job this year considering we have some depth issues and size issues. Its early but you have to be impresses with the teams preperation.

It's amazing what winning can do.

[tornado]

Has anyony noticed that the questions about Jims ability to coach have went away?

and

Coach Les is really becoming a great coach....

...I like these guys!

Jim is a good coach, and as he learns more about various opponents and other coaches, he is beginning to show he can outsmart them.

But coaching is way, way more than just figuring out how to play each game and making the in-game adjustments.
It also involves all the tremendous work off the main stage with recruiting and working individually to develop each player.
Don't tell me that Jim Les can't develop individual players, since four from last year's team are playing professionally, and nearly a dozen who have played under Jim Les are still playing pro ball all over the world, and Jim's only been there four years.

Listen to a couple of the comments from Jeremy Crouch about Coach Jim Les.

"Coach Les has worked hard with me, giving me three or four go-to moves," Crouch said. "He's absolutely great at that."



This is the first time since 1998-99 that Bradley has started the season 3-0.
If BU wins Tuesday, then it will be the first time since 1985-86 that Bradley has started 4-0.
Just another mark for Jim Les to fulfill his promise of getting Bradley back to the glory days when he was there!

[Bravesguy]

Where have all the Bradley bashers gone?
Into deep hiding I suspect.
I know the opposition hasn't been strong, but we are playing without our best player and looking good.
Even Kirk Wessler's column seems to be saying that JL is a good coach, and those who actually watch the game sees the adjustments he makes, like going zone, running out of bounds plays, switching to four guards. Even when Jim is hampered by a real shjortage of healthy players he still has more cards to play then the opposition.
Prediction: by the end of another year or so, Jim will be lauded as one of the best coaches in the Valley and maybe in the midwest.

[chitownBUB]

Ahem..
The other finalist for the coaching job that Jim Les occupies, is coming under increasing heat at Illinois for not helping to land any significant in-state player. Some think a shake-up is due.

[BUBraves06]

I think so. Or at least maybe there was some suggestion of improprieties with Liberty's recruitment and the students were "harassing" Jimmy Collins about it.

That is why, we spent pretty much the whole game riding Jimmy. We didn't have them confused, just didn't have enough posters for all the names. According to an usher I talked to on the way out, there was a UIC fan (presumably Jimmy Collins' wife) who was in tears 'cause we were harassing him so much.

[it's boogie time]

Marcus Liberty was dumb as a brick, but there weren't any recruiting violation that I can remember. He went through the bridge program and had to sit out his freshmen year due to being a non-qualifier. As the head recruiter, Liberty was a feather in Jimmy Collins' hat since he was the #1 ranked high schooler.

[Da Coach]

According to an usher I talked to on the way out, there was a UIC fan (presumably Jimmy Collins' wife) who was in tears 'cause we were harassing him so much.

I thought the "harassing was not in bad taste.
And if Jimmy or his wife thought that was bad, then it is a good thing he didn't get the job at Illinois or another Big 10 school, because the harassing there is much worse and relentless.

[Grassman]

JC, WF, and ZA all had great games today. I'm not too concerned about the lack of scoring from the other positions for 1 game, especially when Ruff was out.

ZA should dominate teams like this because he's so much more athletic then their big men. I think he's going to have a lot more trouble scoring in the Valley though, because the valley has some big athletic guys that can match up with him better. He'll still probably get 10-15 points a game, but I don't think we'll see any 25 point performances in the Valley.

I was impressed with Bradley today. To win fairly easily without Ruff was a good sign. Let's get him healthy, and I think we'll make a run to the upper half of the Valley.

Regarding other Valley "Big Men." Only Tolliver is taller and by an inch.6'9". IMO none of the prominent "Big Men" who really are not that big, Falker, Stout, Coleman, Wurtz, Diligard, Wilson, can hold Zachs sox when it comes to athleticism.
No he will not score 25, only because Ruffin will be back and he will not need to.

[collegehoopjunkie]

What was up with the "Marcus Liberty" sign in the first half? Did they have him confused with Deon Thomas from back in the day?

Hey, I ran across this article and it reminded me of this discussion about Jimmy Collins and Marcus Liberty.

In it is a little blurb about Jimmy Collins and Marcus Liberty
"(Deon) Thomas wanted $80,000 because Liberty received $75,000"

Pearl facts and fiction
By LOREN TATE
Copyright The News-Gazette
Published Online March 22, 2005
Talk about your worst nightmare!
Here is slap-happy Illini Nation, floating alongside the most enjoyable basketball season in a lifetime, suddenly consumed in the darkest and most bitter memories.
For old-timers in the orange throng, being in the same building with Wisconsin-Milwaukee coach Bruce Pearl on Thursday is like mud-wrestling with Tonya Harding, sharing lunch with Charles Manson or playing a round of golf with O.J. Simpson.
Deon Thomas said it best, telling the Chicago Tribune: "(Pearl) is evil. What else can you say he is?"
Commented Dave Dorr, who covered the 15-year-old story for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: "It was the most underhanded thing I ever encountered."
The oversimplified nutshell is that Pearl, as an Iowa recruiter in 1988-89, brought down a Final Four program by surreptitiously taping Thomas in an admission that he received an offer of $80,000 and a Chevrolet Blazer from then-assistant UI coach Jimmy Collins.
This was one of 12 allegations brought against Collins in a multi-year ordeal that cut the Lou Henson program in half, cost the UI millions to defend and sullied the reputation of Collins. So convinced were NCAA investigators of Illinois' guilt that Chuck Smrt, in announcing that all 12 allegations were dropped, shocked the UI clan by opining that "just because they weren't found guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it."
It was all so complicated. There is no understanding without returning to the beginning.
This occurred in a period when the UI reputation was mud, Mike White resigning in the wake of football infractions and Neale Stoner forced to step down as athletic director for a series of misdemeanors. Then too, Big Ten commissioner Wayne Duke was obliged to investigate a complaint from Indiana University that the mother of Illini center Lowell Hamilton had received a job with a University of Illinois alumnus.
Duke found no infraction, but the whispering campaign emanating from Bloomington, Ind., became increasingly audible. A lot of schools, and particularly Indiana, Iowa and Notre Dame, were determined to detour Collins' popular status with Chicago-area athletes in the late 1980s.
That was the atmosphere when Thomas came along as a superstar at Chicago Simeon. And he had given Pearl reason to believe he might sign with Iowa.
A thorough recruiter, Pearl tried to build an Iowa-leaning network around Thomas. Most prominent in this regard was a chubby student, Renaldo Kyles, who had a relationship with Thomas. Telephone records show Pearl spoke with Kyles 118 times between October 1988 and May 1989, and actually brought Kyles to the Iowa campus with the apparent promise of giving him scholarship aid to serve as a basketball manager.
But Kyles' real job was to serve as broker. He was to deliver Thomas and probably was paid to do so. Pearl called nearly every other day for an update.

Rumor mill
Now comes the element of "street talk." In the inner city, where high school basketball digs deep into the culture, there are always scurrilous rumors and exaggerations about how much the nation's No. 1 prep, Marcus Liberty, might receive under the table, or whether Chris Webber received a bigger payoff than Juwan Howard (he certainly did).
As with rap, it winds around like a grapevine. Proud, targeted athletes never deny such flattery. Cheating is a compliment in the parlance of inner city basketball.
When Pearl saw his recruitment of Thomas slipping, the "street talk" began to proliferate. Kyles, in constant touch with Pearl, is known to have spread the rumor of a huge Illini payoff in discussions with Thomas' girlfriend, his teammates and others at the school. Kyles proudly stated that Thomas was getting $5,000 more than Liberty received.
Thomas' teammate Avery Stalling, mother Joanna Johnson, grandmother Bernice McGary and all those who testified said they had no direct knowledge in the so-called deal until Kyles told them.
Pearl frequently made mention of the alleged Illini offer in his telephone conversations with Thomas, and Deon lazily went along. All this was background for Pearl's calculated decision to obtain taping equipment from the university. And the setup was in collusion with his friend from Boston College, NCAA director of enforcement Richard Hilliard, whose telephone record shows 49 calls from Pearl in an eight-month period ... including late-night calls at the Hilliard home.
Thomas, passive to the point of almost seeming disinterested, was an easy target for Pearl's manipulative efforts when the critical call was made on the evening of April 9, 1989 ... just a few days after the UI's Final Four run and just as Thomas settled on Illinois as his school.
Pearl carefully led Thomas into grunted admissions, and then the zinger: "Jimmy offered you $80,000 and the Blazer, that upset you didn't it?"
Thomas: "Yeah, somewhat."
Later, Pearl: "When they offered you the money, didn't that turn you off a little bit?"
Thomas: "No, not really."
With this going on the record, even if the covert taping was arguably illegal, the trap was sprung. And it would take months to undo it.
For his part, Thomas explained it was evening, he had homework to do, he was tired from the badgering and he would have said almost anything to get rid of the persistent Pearl.
Pearl also taped other conversations, including one with Kyles in which it was stated that Thomas wanted $80,000 because Liberty received $75,000. It was clearly staged. Pearl wanted to get the innuendoes on the record. Segments of the various tapes were edited. For example, the 14-minute conversation on April 9 had six minutes missing.

One last go-round
Later, in a last-ditch effort, Pearl set up a strategy to prevent Thomas from enrolling at the UI. Here are the highlights of his memo:
???ぎ??? Notify the NCAA prior to mid-June. Chances are better if the investigation takes place in Chicago.
???ぎ??? Work with someone in enforcement we know personally.
???ぎ??? Discuss some "conditions," such as Iowa remaining nameless and Kyles not being named.
???ぎ??? Punish the UI and prevent the program from doing it again.
???ぎ??? If possible, do this without destroying Thomas.
At this juncture, Pearl hadn't entirely given up on getting Thomas at Iowa if the flying shrapnel became too heavy for him to stand it at Illinois. With longtime friend and phone-pal Hilliard working from the inside, he was able to pull off the first two items in his strategy to bring down Illinois.

Collins in the clear
About this time, Notre Dame sophomore LaPhonso Ellis lost eligibility for the first semester, and wasn't happy in South Bend. Digger Phelps became furious when it was rumored the East St. Louis product might transfer to Illinois. Phelps did not disguise his feelings about Illinois and Lou Henson, and filed a formal complaint against Collins for contacting Ellis' mother, even though the two later testified they hadn't spoken for two years.
So imagine the reaction of Mort Weir, the UI chancellor, when he discovered that the UI basketball program was under attack from two sides. Nineteen months after Ellis told Operation Intercept he had received no improper offers from Illinois, he said Collins gave him shoes and clothing and an offer of $5,000. Or was it $10,000? Or did the shoes come from someone else? Oh, yeah, that's right. It wasn't Collins. Nor the clothing.
Ultimately, under questioning, Ellis recanted. Thus disappeared the first five allegations in the official inquiry. And, after study, the NCAA committee on infractions also threw out the other seven allegations against Collins. He was exonerated.
But the NCAA wasn't done. Hilliard, Smrt, Randy Rueckert and the gang had egg on their face. They were embarrassed. They didn't appreciate being challenged. They didn't like it when the UI, in an overdue burst of sanity, dumped its chief investigator, Mike Slive, who was prepared to admit to phony charges and throw the university on the mercy of the court.
Illinois fought back, stuck with the coaches and paid a heavy price when the NCAA, serving sanctions for which the UI hadn't been allowed to challenge, put the school on probation for "lack of institutional control." Henson was limited to two scholarships for each of the next two years, and a 21-win team that finished 11-7 in the Big Ten was banned from the 1991 NCAA tournament. More than that, Henson was served a recruiting blow that foiled his later UI years and probably cost him Hall of Fame status.

Squeaky clean?
Why, in the aftermath, was Pearl able to avoid investigation for his own alleged misdeeds and the incidents on a spring trip to Amsterdam to follow the Simeon team ???ぎ??? Thomas said Pearl gave him $100 and bought lunch for him and three teammates after Simeon coach Bob Hambric asked Pearl not to be there?
That should be obvious. Pearl had what amounted to immunity because of his relationship with Hilliard, who encouraged his efforts to sink the UI.
But consider:
Whereas Pearl claimed Collins agreed to "fix up" McGary's house, the grandmother said it was Pearl who made that offer, and Deon's mother, Joanna Johnson, confirmed it.
Thomas told the Chicago Sun-Times that Pearl had offered to double any offer from any other school, but that Illinois had made no offer.
Pearl clearly made a deal with Kyles to influence Thomas, and is believed to have paid Kyles in some fashion.
Worse yet, if true ???ぎ??? and nobody really knows what's true in this mess ???ぎ??? the Sun-Times reported Pearl threatened to expose the drug dependency of Deon's mother if Thomas didn't go to Iowa.
It boils down to a conniving adult tricking an immature 17-year-old, who claimed he would have agreed to anything to get off the telephone. Thomas made the mistake of telling Pearl what he wanted to hear. And it went from there, with Pearl using all his wits and a pre-existing relationship with Hilliard to destroy the Illini basketball program.
It is wonderful to forgive. Most Illini fans won't be wonderful Thursday in Chicago.

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